reply to post by AlliumIslelily
Would there still be a mind or self without the senses and just pure consciousness if it were simply a brain in a jar? This is what you are asking?
If there was no sight the consciousness wouldn't know it was in a jar... so no need for that part of the brain for sight, so we will just cut that
out... the same could be said for sound, smell, taste and touch, no need for the spinal cord senor of the brain hanging out down there either called
the medulla, nor the cerebellum for movement. So what use is a brain in a jar for consciousness? When no part of the brain is required after cutting
out all non essential parts for being in the jar... unless, you have a body or the brain is thought to be the seat of consciousness? If the
consciousness resides in the brain where might its seat be?
At the end of this conudrum, there are two options depending on belief. One consciousness dies with the body, or the other... it transmigrates and
attaches to another form.
In other words: A body requires conscious awareness to be animate... but does conscious awareness require a body?
Sure isolated brains of a sort have been grown and given an artifical body or specific function... are those aware though? The concept of ghost in the
shell arises, but as current tech goes to my knowledge no signal of communication of awareness from islated brains have yet arisen... but I do not
think it out of the realm of possibility. It would require the ability to sense and precieve beyond just carrying out a routine function, to display
consciousness and the ability to communicate to another that it is aware... would this be an artifical intelligence or and actual conscious
intelligence? Hopefully, when diving into such research we tread lightly in case it is indeed a consciousness bearing sentient life that we are not
creating any suffering to it.
Considering plant studies, showing an awareness of sorts is present... are we blindly destroying a conscious sentient life... simply because we have
no means to really communicate with them word for word to see if a thinking/feeling/rational consciousness is present? Not to mention the more recent
discovery of the possibility of crystaline life. Obviously conscious sentient life such as animals are among us, if they are all self aware, have
feelings of some moral structure is an answer many don't want to know... cause mmm bacon.
Perhaps we are just like ignorant cave persons blissfully ignorant, to the amount of damage we may be doing as far as conscious self aware life
actually goes, the feelings of superiority humans have over everything else existant... is a strong justification for only respecting human life, and
that seems to be on a case by case basis as it is... of course some life we would never listen to anyway, such as the flu virus demanding an end to
vaccines with little picket signs demanding equal rights to life. This begs the question... does humanity really want to know how far conscious
awareness dives... especially if it might possibly be at the cost of their own conscience?
If one thinks consciousness dies with the body, then so much atrocity is or could be taking place, if consciousness seeks another form after the body
then it doesn't seem like that big a deal... "whining about one body and one lifetime of experiences... whats wrong with you you've had millions of
them, and will have millions more... just let go and keep on keeping on."
If you asked for the rabbit hole Alice... you found it. Rod Serling should be along shortly.