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Why Must Everything That Happens Be Called A "FALSE FLAG"?

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posted on Sep, 29 2013 @ 01:17 PM
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Any time there is a problem people automatically assume it is a false flag. The fact is why does it matter? For every action there is a reaction. Do we ever really know the truth? I can say a hurricane was weather modification, does it change the damage done? No. I can say a nuclear bomb was exploded by terrorist, does it change the effects? No. The power grid goes kaput, does that change the aftermath? No. A shooter goes on a rampage and kills 35 people, will it bring anyone back if they determine he was a CIA operative with an agenda? No.

The reality is, damage is done and cannot be undone, no matter what or why or how it happens. This is not to say that there are not certain things that are manufactured for specific goals, calling everything that does happen a "false flag" does not change anything.

We only give factions that are considering their options the perfect excuse, Iran can launch an attack on Israel and blame Syria, China can attack USA and blame Russia, Israel can attack North Korea and blame Japan, USA can attack Kenya and blame terrorists.

This world is constantly looking for others to blame when in fact we are all to blame except the completely innocent bystanders (you know), but the old people that are around today are far from innocent, they have perpetrated a way of life that has allowed many immoral actions to occur, I am speaking of the children and the mentally incapable, they are forced to deal with the consequences of the actions of others.

There will be many disasters to come very soon and I hope for the sake of those innocents that are forced to deal with anything are looked after properly.



posted on Sep, 29 2013 @ 01:36 PM
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Good question
May I point you here ?




Hi again ATS,

Like many of you, I have watched an interesting development over the past six or seven months. A cultural shift within our community that has come to dominate much of the discussion on not just this site, but the Internet at large. It is a dialogue that used to be only part of certain discussions which has bled over into just about every subject that we deal with her.

Of course I am speaking about the predisposition to see nearly every news worthy event as a “false flag.

For those who might not be fully familiar with what the phrase “false flag” means, I offer this snippet from Wikipedia:


False flag (or black flag) describes covert military or paramilitary operations designed to deceive in such a way that the operations appear as though they are being carried out by other entities, groups or nations than those who actually planned and executed them. Operations carried during peace-time by civilian organisations (sic), as well as covert government agencies, may by extension be called false flag operations if they seek to hide the real organisation behind an operation.
The name "false flag" has its origins in naval warfare where the use of a flag other than the belligerent's true battle flag as a ruse de guerre, before engaging an enemy, has long been acceptable. Such operations are also acceptable in certain circumstances in land warfare, to deceive enemies in similar ways providing that the deception is not perfidious and all such deceptions are discarded before opening fire upon the enemy.

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For awhile I personally suffered from a visceral reaction to these ideas and the people who seek to further them. Having been involved in the discussion of September 11, 2001 for a number of years I was used to being exposed to some very outlandish beliefs. But to see it happening on such a large scale really did take me aback. I found myself in a state of feeling deep offence when people would suggest that the victims of tragedies were not only not really victims... but were actually actors and frauds ( thus not only negating a tragic death, but inferring that these people are actually morally bankrupt charlatans )... well it pushed my indignation to ever increasing heights.

Sadly my reaction, and the reaction of others who felt the same way, only served to further the cause of those who pushed the false flag idea. Each time anyone shows indignation it seems to offer only “proof”, to believers, that they are right. They see all opposition to their beliefs as an organized attempt to marginalize or silence them. In playing the victim card, in this manner, they fomented a fair amount of support from the community and their voices became increasingly louder and more resolute. The battle cry of “This must be true because the shills are out in force” tended to add weight to their claims – bringing sympathy and allies.

Thus, the kind of circular rhetoric that used to be confined to the 9/11 forum, the chemtrail forum, and arguments about whether or not the lunar landings were faked, suddenly spilled over into the new forums, the current event forums, the general conspiracies forums, and even the light hearted “off topic” areas of the boards.

For better or for worse, the culture of our community has changed and, for now at least, we live in a world where everything is considered a false flag. From a shoplifting bust at Wal Mart to, God forbid, airline crashes or natural disasters – all things immediately spawn a “Was this another false flag” trend of threads. Those are soon followed by “proof” threads that devolve into debates over minutia, usually based upon Youtube videos and blurry pictures.

Another unfortunate development in all of this is that much of the “evidence” the false flag crowd wishes to offer is of a nature that violates this sites Terms and Conditions. Many of the people who do promote false flag ideas are respectful of the site rules and do their best to remain within them ( Kudos to you good folks, by the way ) - but others manipulate this reality to their own ends. They post things that they know will be removed – solely with the agenda of manufacturing dissent by screaming censorship. They know that ATS will not publicly address why posts or threads are removed – nor will ATS publish private communications involving these people. So they take that opportunity to write their own false narratives of what exactly happened... all to create a situation where they can claim that their theories must be true – because TPTB are seeking to silence them.

That's right folks. Some of the proponents of the false flag movement are creating their own false flags to further their cause and to confuse the facts. How messed up is that? Think about it for a few minutes.

In the end much of the argument is based in a sort of “We know that false flags have happened before, therefore it is safe to assume that THIS is one as well” absolutist approach. An assumption that the possible is probable and then approaching it from there. IMO there is far too much conformation bias involved. If one is looking for “clues”, with a predisposed notion of what will be found, then that persons eye will inevitably be drawn to anything and everything that might support their theory, while ignoring all that does not. I believe that, to a large degree, this is driven by emotion rather than by logic. Sadly this goes hand in hand with being human.
From my personal perspective this situation does have a genesis point. The Aurora, Colorado shootings. From my memory the first truly shocking thing I can recall reading was a post contending that Aurora was faked and that James Holmes is actually a heroic martyr and the only real victim of that “faked” event.

My jaw was agape when I read those words. Had a person in my real life spoken such things in my presence I am positive that my reaction would have been one of pure aggression. Being that this is the Internet my only recourse was to use my keyboard to voice my feelings about what I felt was a totally inappropriate and shameless insult to the victims of the shooting and their families. To my shock and dismay several people immediately responded by inferring that I was either a shill, a sheeple, or asleep. An ad-hom attack meant to totally marginalize my opinions. It left a bad taste in my mouth that remained for a very long time. A taste made much more bitter by having to watch countless others silenced in the same manner.

As of late, that bitter taste has finally gone away – allowing me to try and empathize with those I do not agree with. The subject and the methods of attack have evolved a bit, but the dialogue, since then, has remained largely the same – just on a much grander scale. This thickened my skin and numbed me to the rhetoric, allowing me perspective free from personal indignation. Thus, now, I can voice some of my thoughts and opinions without fearing that I am speaking from a place of emotion and reaction.



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posted on Sep, 29 2013 @ 02:10 PM
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There's one basic reason, and that is that it gives someone who claims such the illusion that he knows what he's talking about and is somehow more aware than others of hidden truths. Besides, what do you expect for a conspiracy site? Even though the vast majority of accused false flags aren't, they make for gallons of virtual ink and hours of entertainment.



posted on Sep, 29 2013 @ 02:18 PM
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Hello... conspiracy site....

What would you expect?



posted on Sep, 29 2013 @ 02:18 PM
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Because they so often are false flags attacks.

By "they" I mean the major events or at-least the ones promoted by the media.

Doesnt mean that the CIA committed the act then left clues to indict another group but all too often there are aspects which force us to question the official narrative.



posted on Sep, 29 2013 @ 02:21 PM
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Maybe it's because false flags are so common. They are as necessary to modern warfare as bullets and oil.

When was the last time a country said, "Well, they didn't attack us, and they probably never will. They are no threat to us, but we're going to attack them anyway because we want something they have."

When countries start doing that, maybe we can have threads like, "Why are governments so open and honest?"




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