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The Third Secret of Fatima and the "Black Pope".

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posted on Sep, 13 2013 @ 03:41 PM
reply to post by adjensen

When they tried to trip Yeshua up by asking which was the greatest commandment he SUMMED them all up in Loving God. Thus, if you love God you will do all the rest as laid out because of that loving relationship with God through Yeshua. Loving God is not a permission slip to do whatever you want.

posted on Sep, 13 2013 @ 05:17 PM

reply to post by adjensen

Loving God is not a permission slip to do whatever you want.

No, it is not, but that goes both ways -- as I said before, if you want to live under the Law, you live under ALL of the Law. If you're a male, you'd better be circumcised. If you're a woman, you have to stay away from all people for a week after menstruation. You better not be eating any unclean foods. Better watch what kinds of clothes you wear.

Since you observe the Jewish Sabbath, here is a helpful list of all the things that you can't do on that day: Activities Prohibited on Shabbat. Used your oven on the Sabbath? That's a sin, and you'll be condemned for it.

posted on Sep, 13 2013 @ 05:18 PM
reply to post by littled16

You have some explaining to do with respect to your intentional exaggerations, which are bordering on outright lies. You should tell the readership of this thread how it is that you got from my comment on "MANY non-believers, etc" to your false accusation that I said "ALL those participating in this thread etc., etc."
(see full quotes below)

littled16 - What I think you should do is to apologize to me and to the other members for your gross exaggerations - to the point of lying. We in the Catholic world have a name for your intentionally unfounded accusations - its called detraction - to the point of calumny. are no match for a believing Catholic so you might a well just surrender now.


YodHeVauHe..........Much to the chagrin of many non-believers, atheists, and Catholic bashers alike there is NO so-called "Black Pope." Its a disparaging term invented to malign the Jesuit Order - therefore its nothing but a mythic construct deserving of no attention whatsoever, and the same can be said for the so-called prophecies of Saint Malachy.

littled16........ Really? I'm not angry at persons of faith or religion- I am a person of faith, which just goes to show how quick you are to judgement.... Tsk,tsk! You were the one who basically accused ALL all those participating in this thread other than yourself of being non-religious Atheist Catholic bashers without knowing anyone you're labeling- if anything THAT is what is malicious in nature, not questioning Papal Prophecy. It is very obvious who has an axe to grind here... and it's not me. The only thing I'm guilty of is being willing to discuss the possibility of it all and maybe of pointing out a bit of hypocricy.

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posted on Sep, 13 2013 @ 06:41 PM
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The Black Pope Has Risen!

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posted on Sep, 13 2013 @ 07:51 PM

Matthew 16:18 "And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church,* and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it". Christ was very clear that the Church will not ever fall. Any "prophesy" that says otherwise is false and not from God.

The Rock that Jesus is proclaiming is Himself the Christ. It is not the church and it is certainly not Peter. but hell shall not prevail upon the plan of God.

posted on Sep, 13 2013 @ 09:27 PM


Matthew 16:18 "And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church,* and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it". Christ was very clear that the Church will not ever fall. Any "prophesy" that says otherwise is false and not from God.

The Rock that Jesus is proclaiming is Himself the Christ. It is not the church and it is certainly not Peter. but hell shall not prevail upon the plan of God.

No, he was referring to Peter. Peter's original name was Simon, but Jesus gave him the new name of Cephas, which is Aramaic for "rock", and that's why Paul refers to Peter as Cephas in his letters. In the above passage, Jesus is obviously saying that the rock, which is Cephas, is whom the church will be built upon, something demonstrated by the book of Acts.

Grammatically, Matthew 16:18 makes zero sense if Jesus is referring to himself -- "upon myself I shall build my church"?

posted on Sep, 13 2013 @ 09:56 PM
reply to post by guitarplayer

Guitarplayer it does nobody any good to only pay attention to parts of the bible. If you read it to understand it, rather than morph into what you want to believe, it is plain that Jesus was not reffering to himself. For one how could he give himself keys to heaven? Also if he was telling himself that what he binds and looses on earth will be so in heaven would kinda make him sound crazy wouldn't it?
This is one of a few really big debates we have with protestants, the other being the real presence. Either the bible is truth or it is not. If it is true, as I believe, than it only remains true if it is understood correctly. This is why relying solely on the bible for your faith simply does not work, since humans tend to see what they want to see.

posted on Sep, 13 2013 @ 10:26 PM
reply to post by Cancerwarrior

Uhhhh no . . . as the Portugese investigators documented rather thoroughly, The "Mother of God" did no such thing.

A UFO personage ultimately coyly allowing the INSTITUTION's VERY HEAVY HANDED local manipulation and jump to conclusions about 'her' being "The Mother of God" played the role quite impressively . . . for many, but not for all.


Heavenly Lights: The Apparitions of Fatima and the UFO Phenomenon by Joaquim Fernandes and Fina D'Armada (Jul 2005)


Fatima Revisited: The Apparition Phenomenon In Ufology, Psychology, and Science (Fatima Trilogy) by Fernando Fernandes, Joaquim Fernandes, Raul Berenguel and Andrew D. Basiago (May 13, 2008)

posted on Sep, 13 2013 @ 10:33 PM
reply to post by Cancerwarrior

Evidently you do not TRUST



said that


would lead individuals



I assure you, I have a GREATLY EASIER TIME


to lead me into Biblical truth

than I do a bunch of political power-mongering elite ensconced at the highest levels of a fossilized POLITICAL institution more akin to the Pharisees of Jesus' earthly days than to the priorities of His Gospel.

posted on Sep, 13 2013 @ 10:48 PM
reply to post by UnifiedSerenity

Or you could just use your morals. Do the right thing, doesn`t need a loving God imo.

posted on Sep, 13 2013 @ 11:19 PM
reply to post by fenian8

The problem with using your morals is that morals are relative and completely untrustworty, unless they are correctly educated. An extreme example is that Hitler thought it was moral to murder jews. Relativism is rampant today and is inherently evil in and of itself. Truth is objective and is not malleable by ones personal opinion. Humans are subject to many influences which makes it difficult to tell what is truth and what isn't. Most humans, in my opinon, are overwhelmed with fleshy desires and will gravitate towards satisfying those desires while finding ways to justify it as truth. This is why we need a "rock" to guide us into all truth, which is the Catholic Church.
In the end days Rome will burn because satan will attack his enemy and try to take his place. As far as the pope being the antichrist that doesn't even make sense. The antichrist will be followed by most and as we can plainly see most people do not follow the pope, and in fact he is one of the most hated people on earth, just as Catholicism is arguably the most hated religion. This is because the Church teaches the exact opposite of what satan wants, while all the other religions are less offensive to him.

posted on Sep, 13 2013 @ 11:47 PM

reply to post by adjensen

Faith without works is dead. You say you have faith, but I show my faith by my works.... sound familiar?

No man can earn their salvation for it is a free gift through faith in Yeshua, but what did Yeshua do? What is the NEW Testament? What was the Old Testament? I love how they love to do little word changes. It's the New Covenant bought by the shed blood of Yeshua ha Mashiach as opposed to the Old Covenant initiated between God and Abraham and the blood of animals. We are told of this New Covenant:

Jer 31:33 "This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel after that time," declares the LORD. "I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people.

So, we have Yeshua saying he will not change on tiniest part of the Law, and we have been promised a new covenant that is the same as the old, but this time instead of being written on stone, it's written on our hearts. It is there because of the gift of faith and following in the footsteps of Messiah.

What did Yeshua say?

Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Mat 19:18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
Mat 19:19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

We have Yeshua quoting the ten commandments!

Yeshua knew what was required and it came down to what is in our hearts. What we put before God, and in this case, the young man was rich. Yeshua told him to go sell all his possessions give to the poor and follow him. It was not a mandate of everyone to give way everything, but Yeshua knew what was blocking THIS man.

I submit to you, that we want what we want as believers and we don't want to keep God's commandments, so we latch onto Paul's words as if they have more weight that Yeshua's! Yeshua put life above all, and he dealt with the unbending Pharisees who would rather see a donkey die than work on Sabbath. But, nowhere does Yeshua say to not observe it or to change it to a day you prefer. Yeshua observed all the feasts of the Lord, and we are told to follow in His example.

In Revelation we see,

Rev 2:2 I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:

When did people turn away from Paul? Paul even tells us that Asia did:

2Ti 1:15 This thou knowest, that all they which are in Asia be turned away from me;

Yeshua warned of this one coming in their own name whom they would accept. He warned over and over about the false ones.

Joh 5:43 I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

Paul loves his name, he writes his letters boldly, “I Paul” “I the Apostle Paul” “I the appointed Apostle” and he dispenses his instructions which are 90 to 95 % in line with the word of God, but then he puts in his twists. What sort of twists? Let’s examine the differences in the teachings of Yeshua / Jesus and Saul:

Jesus Says Not To Eat Meat Sacrificed to Idols, But Paul Says It Is Ok

Three times Jesus in the Book of Revelation condemns eating meat sacrificed to idols, even saying this is the doctrine of a false prophet. (Rev. 2:6, 14 (Ephesus); Rev. 2:14-15 (Pergamum); Revelation 2:20 (Thyatira).)

This absolute prescription also was set forth in James’ ruling at the Jerusalem Council in Acts 15:20. Then it is repeated when it was put in a letter. (Acts 15:29.) Finally, James reiterates this for a third and final time in Acts chapter 21. James tells Paul that many claim Paul is teaching lawless doctrine. So James reminds Paul what was the ruling at the Jerusalem Council. He tells Paul that previously “we wrote giving judgment that they [i.e., the Gentiles] should keep themselves from things sacrificed to idols….” (Acts 21:25.)

However, Paul clearly teaches three times that there is nothing wrong in itself eating meat sacrificed to idols. (Romans 14:21;1 Corinthians 8:4-13, and 1 Corinthians 10:19-29.) The first time Paul addresses the question of “eating meat sacrificed to idols,” Paul answers: “But food will not commend us to God; neither if we eat not….” (1 Cor. 8:8.) Paul then explained it is only necessary to abstain from eating such meat if you are around a “weaker” brother who thinks an idol is something. (1 Cor. 8:7, 8:10, 9:22.) Then, and only then, must you abstain. The reason is that then a brother might be emboldened to do something he thinks is sinful. The brother is weak for believing eating meat sacrificed to an idol is wrong. This is thus a sin for him to eat, even though you know it is not sinful to eat meat sacrificed to idols. Thus, even though you know better than your weaker brother that it is no sin to do so, it is better to abstain in his presence than cause him to sin against his weak conscience and be “destroyed.” (1 Cor. 8:11.)

Jesus Says The Law Continues, But Paul Says No

CAVEAT: The Law given Moses applicable to “foreigners/sojourners” (Gentiles) is a relatively small set of moral commands primarily from Leviticus, incorporating most of the Ten Commandments. So if the Law given Moses applies to Gentiles, it is not a burdensome list. Yet, we are still applying literally the Law, just as James did in Acts 15, by treating the term “foreigner/sojourners” versus “Israel” as literally as possible. This distinction perfectly explains why James said circumcision does not apply to Gentiles, i.e., Leviticus 12:1-3 only requires sons of “Israel” to be circumcised. See this webpage where we discuss this issue in more depth.

Jesus’s View on the Law. Jesus emphasized the validity of the Law up through the passing away of Heaven and Earth, thus confirming its inspiration and ongoing validity. In Matthew 5:17-19 we read:

(17) Think not that I came to destroy the Law [of Moses] or the prophets: I came not to destroy, but to fulfil. (18) For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass away from the Law, till all things be accomplished [i.e., all things predicted appear on the stage of history]. (19) Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. (ASV)

If we are HIS disciples who love and follow Jesus, then we should follow HIS example. Just as the first Adam fell through not keeping God’s Commandments, Jesus as the second Adam with no sin nature did what no other had been able to do, and that was to live according to and obey HIS Father’s commandments! We fall short often, but we repent and seek to do what is right in all things. Yeshua / Jesus kept the commandments of GOD.

Thus, Jesus can never be accused of seducing any Christian from following the Law. Jesus cannot be a false prophet under Deuteronomy 13:5 (false prophet is anyone who has miracles and wonders but seduces you from following the Law). Jesus said the Law remained valid until the Heavens and Earth pass away. This passing of heaven and earth occurs at the end of the Millennium. This is 1000 years after Christ’s Second Coming, according to the Book of Revelation.

I don’t want you to miss out on this very important “secret” if you will. It’s one of the key portions to understand. Read Deuteronomy now, and see if you have been tested and found wanting or will you hear, “Well done my good and faithful servant.”

Deu 13:1 If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,
Deu 13:2 And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;
Deu 13:3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

Jesus said, one would come in his own name, doing signs and wonders. That we were not to trust him. Jesus/Yeshua our blessed savior who died for us, and rose again defeating death warned us of all things, and have we paid attention? I remind you:

Joh 5:42 But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you.
Joh 5:43 I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

Paul’s View on the Law. Paul says the opposite.

Paul is blunt in Ephesians 2:15, Colossians 2:14, 2 Cor. 3:11-17, Romans 7:1-3 et seq, and Galatians 3:19 et seq. The Law is “abolished,” “done away with,” “nailed to a tree,” “has faded away,’ and was “only ordained by angels…who are no gods.” If we were to cite Paul’s condemnations of the Law in one string, the point is self-evident that Paul abrogated the Law for everyone. See Eph. 2:15 (“setting aside in his flesh the law with its commands and regulations”); Col. 2:14 (“having blotted out the bond written in ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us: and he hath taken it out that way, nailing it to the cross;”) 2 Cor. 3:14 (“old covenant”); Gal. 5:1 (“yoke of bondage”); Rom. 10:4 (“Christ is the end of the law“); 2 Cor. 3:7 (“law of death”); Gal. 5:1 (“entangles”); Col. 2:14-17 (“a shadow”); Rom. 3:27 (“law of works”); Rom. 4:15 (“works wrath”); 2 Cor. 3:9 (ministration of condemnation); Gal. 2:16 (“cannot justify”); Gal. 3:21 (cannot give life); Col. 2:14 (“wiped out” exaleipsas); Gal. 3:19, 4:8-9 (“given by angels…who are no gods [and are] weak and beggarly celestial beings/elements”).
Jesus Says Only God Is Your Spiritual Father, and Call No Man on Earth Your Father, But Paul Says He Is The Corinthians’ Only Spiritual Father

Jesus said:

and ye may not call [any] your father on the earth, for one is your Father, who is in the heavens, (Matt. 23:9 YLT)

But Paul says:

For even if you had ten thousand others to teach you about Christ, you have only one spiritual father. For I became your father in Christ Jesus when I preached the Good News to you. (1 Cor. 4:15, NLT)

Need some more?

Jesus says Nations Of The World Are Under Satan, But Paul Says Their Rulers Are Agents of God

Compare Lk 4:5-8, Jn 18:36, 19:18, Ac 4:26 (Ps 2:2) versus Paul in Rom 13:1-5.

The celestial kingdom is described in the Gospels as of another order from the entire realm of the nations, which are ruled by Satan and whereby Christ was crucified. (See our webpage discussion.)

On the other hand, the secular authorities with all their weaponry (including Mk 15:16 ff) are stated by Paul to be God’s own agents. (Romans 13:1-5.) (Source: Metalog) [Added 9/25/2010]

Paul also contradicts Hosea 8:4 (700s BC): “They set up kings without my consent; they choose princes without my approval.” (NIV)

Cf. Thomas Aquinas recognized a Christian had no duty to obey unjust laws, implicitly recognizing the world’s rulers are not God’s agents. (Summa Theolgia (Copleston) Question 96, Art. 6; see Feldman at 307 fn. 125.)

Paul instructed his disciples not to allow anyone’s message to compete with his: “Even if an angel from Heaven should preach a gospel to you other than that which we have preached to you, let him be cursed.”[Gal 1: 8)
What if that God’s Son preached a different message?

It is not my intention to cause division. It is my intention to discuss truth, and bring unity to the body of Messiah. I ask you, did Paul bring unity? Did Paul line up with the teachings of Yeshua / Jesus? Did Paul submit to the rightful authority which Yeshua left in place or did Paul argue and go his own way? What was the fruit of Paul’s labor? What is the end result of his writings? They have caused more division amongst believers than anything else. Yeshua brought life and peace, joy and comfort. Paul’s words so often have brought pain, suffering, division and misery. Who is the good shepherd and do you follow him or Paul?

If you still think Paul is a true Apostle of Jesus and can prove it, here is your chance to win $1000.00. Just go to this web page, read it, follow the instructions. Please let me know when you win the money. So far, no one has. How can Paul be an Apostle when this verse clearly tells us there are only 12?
Rev 21:14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

You keep railing against Paul you know his conversion was in 33-34AD Peter lived till 64-65AD John lived until 100AD. Your telling me that the established church could do nothing against Paul's teachings for 60 plus years? If he was this big heritic why did they pass his letters around the churchs and not just burn them?

posted on Sep, 14 2013 @ 04:39 AM
the re-writing of Gospel should be admitted officially. That is why there isn't found any document earlier than 2-3 century.
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posted on Sep, 14 2013 @ 04:59 AM
One cannot really imagine how an angel will open the tomb and then will stay as a common man only clothed in white garments to tell the women. No wings are reported either.
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posted on Sep, 14 2013 @ 05:14 AM
The absence of any mention of Russia by pope Francis already half a year of his pontificate, shows e is very far from the idea to consecrate Russia.
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posted on Sep, 14 2013 @ 07:25 AM
reply to post by YodHeVauHe

edit on 9/14/13 by littled16 because: Pride filled hypocrites aren't worth it!

posted on Sep, 14 2013 @ 07:47 AM
reply to post by adjensen


is one of the best books I've ever read on the topic. Available on Kindle for $1.00 WN+THE+LAW

One of his major assertions is that the law was a forerunner, teacher, pointer to Christ . . .

that Life IN HOLY SPIRIT is entirely different and more . . . intense, exacting . . . and that folks who insist on being wedded to the law and customs of the OT have not entered fully into a life IN HOLY SPIRIT . . . and that

THAT is actually an affront to God and a hazard to their spiritual health.

I think he's right.


The satanic globalist UFO fallen angel driven tyrannical global government will be a horrific and intensified application of "NEW LAW" far more devastating, limiting, brutal, constricting, oppressive than the worst of the OT law. Fatima's part in helping to bring about such a dreadful state has been sad to observe.

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posted on Sep, 14 2013 @ 10:22 AM
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In response to littlegirl16's 'brave' non-response to YodHeVauHe's posts - Having a change of mind is one thing, but to continue with an ill conceived post by using it as an "EDIT" is quite another - bizarre!

As stated earlier ....."you are no match for a believing Catholic so you might a well just surrender now." Your response has made my admonition regarding your ill mannered-ness towards others even more appropriate and true.

Why would you use the "EDIT" function as a reply to someone's post? You don't think that's a bit strange?

I wonder if its also a violation of T+C to insert an ill mannered post as an "EDIT"? Can the Mods weigh in of this please?

littlegirl16's response to YodHeVauHe's post................

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posted on Sep, 14 2013 @ 10:39 AM
Back to topic - hopefully there will be no more distractions............Thank you.

Since this thread was first published I have been steadily wondering if V Putin is playing an active role in the promulgation and/or verification of the 3rd Fatima message. Since he was first elected, and up to the present day President Putin has been in the process of restoring the Russian Orthodox Church to its rightful place in Russian society - hence Russian history in all respects. Perhaps we are witnessing the first tangible signs of the heeding by the Russians of the Fatima messages.

He is a faithful believer and daily communicant who vehemently eschews the culturally degrading movement of homosexuality and same sex marriage - among other things. He is against abortion and is tackling those issues as we speak.

Putin is surely blessed by God in his diligent efforts to restore not only the Russian Orthodox Church, but Russian culture as well - they go hand in hand actually.

I think actively positive signs of proper attentiveness to the messages of Fatima will surely be revealed if we see Putin making overt gestures - overtures of reconciliation to Rome with respect to the Russian Orthodox Church, and quite possibly the other Eastern Orthodox communions as well. He sure is the man for the job, after all - he is definitely a man of high moral character, and stellar leadership qualities as well. Importantly - we do know that he's in active communication with pope Francis. I personally think that he has either responded fully to Fatima already or at the very least he is laying the groundwork for the public consecration of Russia. AMEN AMEN

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posted on Sep, 14 2013 @ 12:02 PM
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I want to believe what you said is true. I will not repeat facts from your post. Putin kissed the belt of Our Lady from Mt Athos monastery, along with all politicians from the entire spectrum (even the hardliner communist Zyuganov did it).

At the same time Putin is preparing the strongest army since the end of cold war. Currently, besides the Mediterranean task force, a new Arctic task force is formed by 10 nuclear powered surface ships and ice breakers. Those messages are clear. Good there is also the other peaceful message to come out of today's Kremlin.

What would be the future role of Russia? If I have to speculate based on my previous reflections on Fatima in other threads, I'd like to see a Russia that opens the door to humanity for new realms hidden for millenia but surely existing. Roswell 1947 is not a work of crazy people. Let we know the entire truth not only confessions of people we would call crazy or evil (although most of them are not). Russia has her own encounter with that mystery. I can say more. Will this be the input to the humankind, a rescue mission or what?

Pope Francis knows more but he doesn't say more. We are left to expect when the next apocalyptic date will be set forth (as 2012, 2000) and to expect God's action - may be thru a nation and its leader. Comet Ison November 28? At this point I cannot say more without entering into speculative theories true for me but untrue for many believers.

They have to pass thru their own space school before entering space university. First of all they should undergo brief course in Einstein physics (available online in form of cartoons) to understand that is possible under current mainstream physics, only secret-ed into equations and terms hard to understand by common people. I cannot speak 600 level courses to people who refuse to accept experimental truth of 100 level course, proven multiple times and with workable modern tech with these principles. We never counted the Time as a coordinate. Einstein did, and did it for the many next level scientists who now prove wormhole is perfectly achievable if you have materials to build it. One of these ways is to have element 115. I stop here and give the word of witnesses such as Bob Lazar.

As far as Francis is concerned he knows all of that. Putin knows all of that. Awaited is a special moment in history to announce the wider world that has always been a such all the way along the human history. I can say more, but please read my old posts and then I am a tired man that have to take some rest too (not old though). If the deadline is November then you have 2 months to educate yourselves of basic principles and THEN to evaluate what can be and what can't be in Fatima. OL said people will understood only after 1960. Quantum physics and others weren;t developed before that. Still, for many people, for majority of beievers the physics is the Newtonian centuries old, and even though non understandable. Please do your best. You cannot pretend to know prophecy sealed for the end times, if you do not understand those end times in first place from their natural perspective explained brilliantly by popular scientists as Michio Kaku. Listen that and then go back to Fatima question. The choice is yours. Otherwise you will say "that can't be because that can't be, because God can't do that. No, He can, and He has buolt the universe upon these and other more strange principles that we slowly discover. Don't put God in narrow frames.

Will Putin help the earth's tribes to understand all of the above? Will he invite space visitors at one point? I want to believe yes. I want to believe it will be done together with the Americans and not as conflict.

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