reply to post by Astyanax
Tinkerpeach is anything but "polite", English hedgerows have naught to do with the topic, and you started YOUR response with "oh, it's you,
wildtimes," and then proceeded to try to back her up. You didn't have to come on here at all, and now you've completely derailed the thread anyway,
STILL with no sources offered. Why?
Pompous does NOT equal polite. Neither does condescending. But she buggered off anyway - as is her way.
Since you have not, would you like to contribute to the actual discussion of why humans are so brutal toward EACH OTHER, when it's really NOT
NECESSARY to actual survival?
The TOPIC of the thread is the Muriquis ability to cooperate, and live in peace with each other, as opposed to the Human primates, who have "reason"
but do not exercise it in cooperating with each other, OR the planet in general.
MANY scientists have established, for some time now, that humanity's impact on the world has wrought IRREVERSIBLE changes in ocean chemistry,
speciation, and radiation. This is indisputable. They have been debating whether to state officially or not, that HUMAN ACTIVITY has ushered in a new
"era" - the Anthropocene.
The Anthropocene Debate:
Marking Humanity’s Impact
Is human activity altering the planet on a scale comparable to major geological events of the past? Scientists are now considering whether to
officially designate a new geological epoch to reflect the changes that homo sapiens have wrought: the Anthropocene.
In a recent paper titled “The New World of the Anthropocene,” which appeared in the journal Environmental Science and Technology, a group of
geologists listed more than a half dozen human-driven processes that are likely to leave a lasting mark on the planet — lasting here understood to
mean likely to leave traces that will last tens of millions of years. These include: habitat destruction and the introduction of invasive species,
which are causing widespread extinctions; ocean acidification, which is changing the chemical makeup of the seas; and urbanization, which is vastly
increasing rates of sedimentation and erosion.
Human activity, the group wrote, is altering the planet “on a scale comparable with some of the major events of the ancient past. Some of these
changes are now seen as permanent, even on a geological time-scale.”
So, now that we have that established - that man is PART of nature, and is reckless and irresponsible about it, to the point of permanently ALTERING
the Earth itself - how about you provide sources that actually DEBUNK the article?
It stands on its own. Humanity is a scourge. We have a CHOICE - respect our environment, or abuse it. Respect our cohabitants, or destroy them. Next
you want to try to claim that a comet crashing into Earth or a Volcanic Eruption can do those things also? PEOPLE are not comets or volcanoes; they
are consumers, destroyers, and defilers. As for beetle species being "plowed to oblivion" - the argument can be made that there are enough BEETLES in
the world that we wouldn't NEED to farm or raise meat. They can be eaten; many aboriginal tribes do eat grubs, etc. - and in Asia (your stomping
ground), scorpions, grasshoppers, etc. Or is this a lie? No, it isn't.
The Industrial Age entered, and the Earth's integrity has suffered ever since.
I give you the Amazon jungle tribe, who have now (finally) been left to live the way they WANT to, WITHOUT industry, or technology, or "civilized"
societies. They've SEEN it, and said, "erm, NO THANK YOU. Leave us alone." They live in harmony with, and as STEWARDS of, their habitat.
Just because people CAN do something, doesn't mean they SHOULD - and that's what I mean by people "who know better."
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