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Why we should NOT demand military action on Syria(Trade Route&Oil Theft - Political stuff)

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posted on Sep, 1 2013 @ 05:35 PM
I was reading this thread that goes by "Why we SHOULD demand military action on Syria" Written by perhaps one of the most....Uninformed life forms here on ATS. I made a new thread about it because i would like for everyone to see this, and it not being the crap at the very end of the thread which hardly anyone reads.

So i will do a small presentation on why we SHOULDN'T go to war with this country.
Let me start by saying, THERE ARE NO CHEMICAL WARFARES GOING ON! This is all media lies ordered by government propaganda Bullcrap to condition people into wanting to go to war with yet ANOTHER INNOCENT COUNTRY.

Those of you whom are informed in trade will highly agree with what I'm about to show you.
All of these wars in the med.east have been, always been to steal trade routes, Iraq iran pakistan saudi arabia all of them, to steal trade routes from ottoman empire let us not forget why they are there to begin with! to steal oil from IRAQ.

Warning: Long yet Informational Read - Although im not gonna go too in depth with each but will rather link to other sites with more information on each point. Why? Too lazy, i feel spiritually drained and out of energy, it has more info that what i can type in here.

Political World Map With detailed info on trade routes and war on """Terrorism""":
Yellow Numbers - Strategic points, News related, History
Purple line - Trans-Afghanistan Pipeline
Red lines - Sea Trade Routes(American)
Pink line - Egypts Political Power

1 - Iraq:

As the nation begins debate on how to reform the intelligence community, it is essential to remember that the Iraq war was not driven by bad intelligence, per se. As Bush's former director of policy planning admitted, this was a "war of choice." Intelligence was not used to make a decision for war, it was manipulated to mislead Americans into backing a war already planned.

2- Iran - -

No, the point of this resolution is to tell Israel that it can go to war with Iran, with the assurance that if it gets into trouble, the United States will step in and finish the job.
The intent of this resolution is to eliminate any Israeli hesitancy about getting into a war it cannot win. Israelis won't do that. Menendez, Graham and company are telling them not to worry. Just do it, and we are in too.

Press TV’s documentary program “Untold Truths” reveals documentary film about the life and experiences of former White House Middle East policy adviser, Gwenyth Todd, who has escaped to Australia to keep safe from FBI prosecution.

3- Afghanistan - -

Lie #4: "Oil? Who said anything about oil?" Reality: The Caspian Sea region has potentially the world's largest oil reserves, likely making Central Asia the next Middle East. The problem is piping it out. Afghanistan occupies a strategic position between the Caspian and the markets of the Indian subcontinent and east Asia.

4- Pakistan -

Since well before the top-secret raid and execution of al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden brought US troops into Pakistan, the American military has tried time and time again to sugarcoat its activities overseas.

5- Somalia and Yemen -

In a limited number of cases, the U.S. military has taken direct action in Somalia against members of al-Qa'ida, including those who are also members of al-Shabaab, who are engaged in efforts to carry out terrorist attacks against the United States and our interests.
The U.S. military has also been working closely with the Yemeni government to operationally dismantle and ultimately eliminate the terrorist threat posed by al-Qa'ida in the Arabian Peninsula.

6- Eritrea and Ethiopia -

To this end, the United States should not “green light” any Ethiopian aggression on Eritrea; if anything, Addis Ababa should be counseled to weigh very carefully the regional ramifications of any renewed conflict.

7-Sudan -

The countries' disputes center on four issues: demarcation of the oil and mineral rich disputed border between the two countries, the price the South will pay the north to move southern oil through the northern pipeline to Port Sudan for shipment, surreptitious support by both governments of rebellious groups in each other's territories, and final implementation of provisions of the two countries' peace agreement to resolve peacefully the governance of Blue Nile Province, the Nuba Mountains, and the Abyei region.

8- Egypt - Will leave this for last since it needs explaining.

9-Saudi Arabia -

A stunning report from the G8 Summit states that President Medvedev has been told that the American regime leader Barack Obama [photo top left] intends to unleash a “summer war” on Saudi Arabia to capture their oil fields and has ordered thousands more US Troops to the region to launch it.

According to this report, Obama this past week ordered his Defense Department to “pre-position” over 7,170 combat-hardened US Soldiers in southern Iraq to prepare for the invasion of Saudi Arabia in a blatant disregard of the American pledge to withdrawal all of their by January 2012.

So enraged were the Iraqi people when hearing of Obama’s betrayal that tens-of-thousands of them began a mass protest demanding the Americans leave, but was met with US commander Major General Jeffrey Buchanan slamming the protest march by calling this peaceful protest “an affront to Iraq’s democracy.”

10 - The Famous Suez Canal -

It is a given that preserving the Suez Canal is of paramount importance for the US, if not so much for a quick transit access for cargo between the Mediterranean and the Indian Ocean, but to preserve access to the US 5th Naval Fleet based in Bahrain. Because once that is cut off, there goes quick and easy naval support for Israel operations in and around Iran.

11- Syria - The last Wall -

The truth is that evening the odds in Syria – which the West has already been doing, by drip-feeding supplies and weaponry to rebel forces – has turned a brief if bloody resolution into an interminable meat-grinder, in which no side has the decisive edge, and flattening out some more of Assad's tactical advantages will only maintain this grisly status quo.


Continued in next post ~
edit on 1-9-2013 by Arolexion because: (no reason given)

posted on Sep, 1 2013 @ 05:35 PM
Okay lets talk about Egypt, But first, some links!

Did Obama (and the Global Elite that backs him) really think that they could push as much as they have pushed without blowback? It doesn't appear to be the case. People in the Middle East have no qualms about throwing up roadblocks to the things they do not like. They may take it for a while, but eventually, they will start pushing back. They know if they don't, they will lose. They would rather go down with a fight than without one.

All of the efforts of the United States government, all the cajoling, the veiled threats, the high-level envoys from Washington and the 17 personal phone calls by Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel, failed to forestall the worst political bloodletting in modern Egyptian history.

The Obama administration is calling on Egyptian authorities to release deposed president Mohamed Morsi from detention. Morsi has been under house arrest since Egyptian troops removed him from power last week.

Now you gotta ask yourself some questions, 1 Why did the USA threaten so much, defended, and request the liberation of Deposed President Morsi? 2 Why does the USA continue to give Financial aid to egypt?

Could it be that this Morsi character was Pushed into power by US Higher ups?
Did the Egyptians notice this and by Puppet Morsi's Military Actions Foresaw what would happen?

Could it be that the reason the US continues to aid Egypt financially be because...
Since Ancient times, Egypt has had Political Power All over the Med.East, Thats what the pink Lines in the Map represent.
With Egypt in their pockets the US can do far more Notorious things and Get Away With IT.

Now back to the subject on Syria. Here's another link you might Fancy.

The explanation for the actions of the Western states may be that they do not want the war to end except as a victory for their allies.

This certainly is the view of many in the Middle East, such as Mowaffak Al Rubaie, the former Iraqi National Security Adviser, who told me the civil war "is the best option for the West and Israel because it knocks out Syria as an opponent of their policies and keeps Iran busy. Hezbollah is preoccupied by Syria and not with Israel. Turkey's idea of a new Ottoman empire is gone with the wind." This is a cynical but probably correct explanation for why the US, Britain, France do not want the war to end until they can declare victory.

So while the Syrian Army battles the "Rebels" the USA gets to do as it fancies and hope that in the end both sides will take each other out, letting them barge in freely.

So why Syria? Easy, Syria is the last Wall standing in the way of smooth trade baby.

They've already Dominated or Entertained with their agenda: Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Oman(doesn't seem like they wanna get effed up so they're staying out of it, it seems), Yemen & Somalia, Eritrea & Ethiopia(Perfect! They don't need to worry about Eritrea, they're just pushing Border Wars between the two of these countries from aside so they don't need to get their hands dirty), Sudan(Another Entertained Country Pushed into civil war by an agenda - With this one busy its yet another one the US doesn't need to get their hands dirty with), Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Suez(Just a canal, very easy to dominate), and Syria(The last wall)

So you gotta ask yourself, once again. Why Is the US Going through so much trouble for these trade routes, when they can just go through the Pacific Ocean? Answer, Gas costs, and time efficiency. The Pacific ocean, Named Pacific, from Pacifico(In English: Peaceful) Ocean, lives up to its name, low waves, peaceful sea, and just charming.. However the pacific ocean is a death trap as well. Contrary to the Atlantic Ocean.. The Pacific Ocean is 2x maybe 3x longer than the Atlantic Ocean. (In the Age of Discovery, Many Ships never made it and many sailors deceased trying to discover the Pacific Ocean Due to how LONG it is.)

So it is much more Efficient to Travel trough the Suez Canal into East.Med Waters, Through East.Med Waters into the Atlantic, and head to the USA through the Atlantic Ocean.

Hope those that read to the end will continue researching into this topic and bring in more information

posted on Sep, 1 2013 @ 05:41 PM
Oh forgot to add this in, didnt have much space in the first 2 posts anyways..
What is The Purple line? The Trans-Afghanistan Oil Pipeline, Goes From the Caspian Sea all the way to India.
The Caspian Sea is one of the biggest oil Reserves there are. One of the Reasons the US went to war with Afghanistan is because they wouldn't let them install the pipeline through afghanistan.
Here's an Odd link i found:
Rothchilds and Trans-Afghanistan Pipeline

The high cabal of oilmen had a proposal for a pipeline that would transport oil south via a 42-inch pipeline thru Afghanistan to the Pakistani coast. The pipeline would carry about 1 million barrels of oil every day. The Rothschilds – owners of “Royal Dutch Shell” or “Shell” Oil Company, along with the Rockefellers – owners of the “Exxon/Mobil” oil company, had invested billions in the Kazakhstan oil and gas reserves North of Afghanistan. Now they wanted a pipeline to move all that oil to the Persian Gulf.

Again, If you have more information on the subject, Please bring it in with links, pics, videos or anything else. Sharing is caring

posted on Sep, 1 2013 @ 08:49 PM
I'm mad about oil.

Especially when it comes to one of these, powered by one of these.

Ofcourse this stuff keeps us from enjoying all the nifty fracking and sinkholes that go with it.

I'm trying to post nicely as I can.

Sorry to go off topic.

posted on Sep, 1 2013 @ 09:18 PM
reply to post by loveguy

Nice, i dont mind its still related sort of, anyways, Definitely instead of wasting SOOO much money on wars, you would think they could spend 1/4 of the money they currently spend funding wars, to create more Natural Energy resources. But no, sadly the government gets funded by these demonic oil leaders. And the government is corrupt to the core.

posted on Sep, 2 2013 @ 09:28 AM
-Bump- i felt like i could bump this. (:

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