Man Beats, almost kills 9-Year-Old Girl in Jacksonville Best Buy Bathroom:

Do we still torture people at Guantanamo?

If so, can we start a petition to put dirt bags like this in line for some....i can think of a few neat tricks you can do with lighter fluid, ky jelly and red hot coals.

I have a feeling that this PoS will be kept out of general population but, I have faith that the CO's will turn their backs when he gets visitors. He's gonna need a lifetime supply of butt plugs after a few weeks.

what a horrible story......I remember that other story that was mentioned (about the boy that was killed in the bathroom)
what a world we live in..........

Originally posted by Lysergic
reply to post by goou111

 

What I wouldn't give for five minutes alone.

What I had in mind would take a lot longer than 5 minutes.....

Originally posted by goou111

Originally posted by UFO1414

We had young children at the time of that case and after hearing about it we never let them go to a public restroom by themselves.

So I hope seeing this story will make other people never let their kid out of their sight ..

Whether your at McDonalds, chucky cheese, or Best buy just check the bathroom out first or tell them to hold it

You are living in fear. Stop! Yes this is a horrible crime but this is nothing new. Keep an eye on your child but do not deny them the freedom of being a child. Relatively these cases are rare.

Well not living in fear my kids are grown now.

How is not letting them go into a public restroom alone denying them their freedom?

I call it good parenting.. And 9 year olds dont need freedom anyway

edit on 24-8-2013 by goou111 because: (no reason given)

9 year olds need structure and discipline? No. 9 year olds need creative stimuli to grow to be better than this generation has been. Your ideology is 9 year olds don't need freedom. As a parent of a 6 & 4 year old That's just wrong. Maybe you are living in Detroit or Chicago; then I can sympathize.

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I vote they turn him over to the parents, and all the other parents in the area. I know what I would like to do to him..........

Ok, breathe......

Next person that comments that Hell is a bad thing, I think I will direct here.

Originally posted by gotya
I volunteer to kill the son of a bitch.

I would willingly help. Unless you are squeamish.....

I am not a guy at all, and not particularly tough, but someone who harms a child like that in my sight will see a transformation they didn't want to see.

I have NO tolerance for people attacking children, or old people, etc.

Originally posted by BO XIAN
reply to post by goou111

 

We were warned 2,000 years ago that this era would have an unprecedented

flood of lawlessness

and demonized acting out of rank hellish evil.

I don't know a better explanation.

Certainly ATTACHMENT DISORDER has to also figure in. But I think THAT is an insufficient explanation for that level of evil.

History has always been ripe with a "flood of lawlessness" it's just more out in the open today due to our ability to share information across the globe. What would have been an equal act to this, 300 years ago, would never have been heard about beyond the area it happened in. Stabbings, Murders, Rapes, etc were more common when we didn't have the age of science and surveillance.

Also... Attachment Disorder? My guess is that you heard the term misused, as people with attachment disorders are not necessarily violent -- they just have issues creating/maintaining relationships due to boundary issues, and there's sub-types of those.

Anti-social personality disorder... yeah that could be possible.

Originally posted by Jakes51
reply to post by ProfessorChaos

 

You opinion is duly noted, and certainly understandable given the horrific nature of this crime. Allow me to echo your sentiment on the matter. So, somebody is leaking all over the store floor in a battered bloodied pulp, but is that going to change what happened to the girl? It will not, and this is something that will remain with her for as long she walks the earth. This man, would have paid for his crime and made to suffer for an instant. After the fit of rage and fury his suffering is over, but this little girl's suffering remains. Moreover, most assuredly the person or persons involved in beating the suspect will go to prison.

To me, that sounds like unequitable justice? The one that gets off the easiest is the one that is beaten to a bloody pulp, never made to answer for their crime, nor look upon the faces of their victims or families. I would be more than thrilled if he is convicted, and sent to prison to do some real hardtime. You know, fearing every day in the shower room, walking the tier, or strolling in the yard. His life will become a living hell, and not unlike the one he so horrifically created for that innocent child. That is justice!

*snip*

Trust me, if I got hold of him, he would not suffer for only an instant. He would have no doubt that he made a grave error. As for the child, I think she would sleep a lot better knowing the man that tried to kill her could NEVER do that, or anything else, to her or to another child, again.

Someone that behaves like that is lower than a dangerous animal, because they should know better.

Originally posted by UFO1414
You are living in fear. Stop! Yes this is a horrible crime but this is nothing new. Keep an eye on your child but do not deny them the freedom of being a child. Relatively these cases are rare.

Originally posted by UFO1414
9 year olds need structure and discipline? No. 9 year olds need creative stimuli to grow to be better than this generation has been. Your ideology is 9 year olds don't need freedom. As a parent of a 6 & 4 year old That's just wrong. Maybe you are living in Detroit or Chicago; then I can sympathize.

Wrong! it's called being a good parent, which MUST include protecting your child from the very real dangers of the world in which we live. Cases of harm against children aren't nearly as rare as you think, either, and they aren't even safe from other children. Did you miss this recent story? - 14-yr-old against 4-yr-old

This stuff happens a LOT more than you might think. Just because the attack isn't murder, or attempted murder, doesn't make it any less traumatic for the child that is victimized. The "freedom of being a child" doesn't mean being ignorant and unaware that bad things can happen. We can explain dangers in a way that isn't graphic, and we can most certainly be vigilant. Every parent of a child that was harmed or died, because no one was watching, wishes they could go back and do things differently. That they could be there. No, that doesn't make the parents at fault, but it does show that we MUS be responsible, or out children can suffer. If we don't protect them, who will?

Yes, children DO need structure and discipline. Children that don't get it are what I often call the "Dr. Spock generation", and they are spoiled, selfish, out of control people. This is the children that climbed over the backs of booths through an entire fast food place, while their mothers chatted and took no notice. Mother who, when told to get their brats under control, claimed they didn't have to. Spoiled parents, spoiled children. Exactly what is wrong with much of society today. Children of 4 and 6, with no discipline or structure end up running the house. Seriously, NO discipline? No rules? No responsibilities? Those things are structure and discipline, and children HAVE TO have them, to grow up to be responsible adults. As a parent of five, ranging from 29 to 10, I guarantee you that children need rules.

As a close relative of someone that grew up without any, I can tell you, that ruined his life.

sadly things like this happen to kids with plenty of structure, discipline and training. Even with parents around sometimes kids get victimized. There are stories of kid on kid rape and violence IN the classroom while the teacher was busy with one of the other 20 or 30 plus kids in the classroom. You do the best you can....but sometimes its not enough to prevent......so then....you focus on rehab for the victim....and retribution for the offender.

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I am a Mother Hen when it comes to my children-i have never let my children go to a public restroom alone till they were at least 14-unless that restroom is bare meters away from the table where we'd be sitting if its in a diner like Wimpy,which is mostly a family+kid orientated chain.With my 7yo boy-if his dad's not with, to take him into the men's toilet-i take him to the ladies' one with me-rather be safe than sorry.

The world is full of predators-i will rather not take any chances.I look at the surrounds where ever we are if my children is with me-like some robot you see in a movie-analysing the landscape/location for anything that may be dangerous or risky-only not in infra-red spectrum like in the movies:-)
Seriously one can never be too careful.
The world has shrunk for little kids,no wonder most are tv or pc game addicts.When I was a kid I could take the train into Cape Town at age 10/11+walk around there all day,we could ride our bikes for miles+miles,walk home at nigh after a movie(2/3 girls of 13/14 yo) Hell I was an urban explorer at age 9/10-roaming construction sites,old abandoned buildings,railyards,industrial premises,all alone-and never had any problems except treading on a rusty nail,grazing my knees.We had SO much freedom-but that was in the 70's.
Now kids don't have those liberties anymore-or if they do-its at peril of such things happening,like with this poor kid who was almost murdered in the restroom.

IF he gets to prison, he has absolutely no idea what will happen to him!!
He will last for quite an while until the inmates finally do him in.
I will be with them on that one, I hope he feels EVERY body that takes their turn with him.

However, lets refrain from outbursts advocating vigilantism or mob justice. I hear that from time to time after shocking crimes, and I realize the feelings are natural given the circumstance. Still, they remain to be as detrimental to society as this act of violence.

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I dunno. Sometimes it seems that our tolerance of injustices is what keeps these crimes going. For such people as this sick man, the idea that "the law can only imprison me and not hurt me physically" doesn't seem to be a strong enough deterrent.

We have this one life. More to the point, our children have this one life. If an adult takes that life away (or as in this case almost takes that life away) then that person needs to be very beaten until he is very dead.

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INDEED.

I'm also one of those who can't/won't tolerate well at all, if at all,

abuse of children, animals and the defenseless.

GRRRRR

reply to post by Evil_Santa


Perhaps your understanding of ATTACHMENT DISORDER is flawed.

In my experience over 30+ years of doing therapy with clients and teaching . . . ATTACHMENT DISORDER was virtually always at the root of the more serious labels.

Certainly there are various levels and types of AD.

However, 95% of the criminals in our prisons had/have ATTACHMENT DISORDER. And they are not in prison because of Nonviolence! LOL.

Here's my thread on ATTACHMENT DISORDER:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

It is a topic I virtually harped on as a prof. It is epidemic in our era.

BTW, lawlessness has increased just as a prophecy predicted before the Iraq wars. The prophecy contended that Iraq, the region of ancient Babylon was some sort of connection to the satan worship of old etc. and that if the USA followed through with the Iraq war, that there would be unleashed many hundreds or thousands of demonic forces on the earth that would raise the level of lawlessness greatly.

Be that as it may . . .

Certainly the absolutely senseless, irrational murders etc. like this one--HAVE increased. It's not just a matter of more media publicizing such more.


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this is unreal...what makes a man do such stuff ...

I don't get it .... something ain't right here .... this guy needs to be sent to an Indian Jail ....they know how to treat these people ....

Originally posted by goou111
Well some sick, twisted,perverted piece of s@#t hit, kicked, beat and almost killed a 9 year old girl in a Jacksonville Best Buy bathroom'

A witness heard screaming in the bathroom and got best buy employees to check it out.

www.nbcmiami.com...

A Florida man is facing an attempted murder charge after police say he nearly killed a 9-year-old girl during a random attack in the bathroom of a Jacksonville, Fla., Best Buy store.

He looks Cuban, B.

Any time I have ever taken my neices or nephews out to events and even stores, I have escorted them to and from the bathrooms. The bigger the event, the more important that you are right by their side. If, for nothing else, so you don't get separated. Especially with a 9 year old.

Most people though wouldn't think like that for a Best Buy store, it should be safe, but, then again it was in Florida. I've lived there and people are pretty careless and mean for not much reason.

I just cannot fathom how some can become so bored and disturbed that these ideas and actions make enough sense to actually act on them.

If that were my kid, or my charge, I would probably be sick to death and in a rage. I doubt I could go out and plan to attack even a killers kid for revenge. It is just insane, yet it is a culture different from our own, what can be justified, that is.

There might be a little more to the story. It is abhorrent anyhow.

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imho . . .

such activities ALWAYS involve demonic forces.

I suppose there could theoretically be a case where some physiological brain damage fostered such behavior but I doubt it.

I don't recall such a case from the literature--though it's not a subject I've researched thoroughly.

The demonic element has been verified in a number of cases by experts in demonology.

reply to post by BO XIAN


Seems to be the case of a demonic procession or something , because this is outright weird , no matter how bad a person he cannot do something like that ....

I have felt demonic ( or i believe they were demons ) influence , the hate , fear urge to do horrible things .... an kind of outright fear like one has never experienced before....its like facing the gates of hell , but thats for another thread ....