2 unusual Apes

Two unusual apes--both likely unusual chimpanzees. Apparently, both have been reported over the years, but they are new to me.

One is the Bili-Ape---a huge chimpanzee with gorilla-like habits that is rarely seen in the Bili forest of the Congo:

The Bili Ape is massive by chimpanzee standards. Heights can exceed 5 feet (about Gorilla height), their skulls are larger than chimp skulls, and their footprints are larger even than gorillas. Unfortunately, there have been relatively few detailed observations of the Bili Ape and no thorough examination of either remains or a living Bili Ape in captivity. They are also various(ly) described as having silver backs and even snouted faces (uncommon).

The locals in Bili refer to Bili Apes as “Lion Killers”. While chimps tend to stay in the trees and make good prey for big cats, Bili Apes nest on the ground like gorillas and have been reported to hunt lions.

anthropology.net...


The other is an unusual Ape held in the Zoo in Yaounde, Cameroon:


scienceblogs.com...

Apparently little known is that there is a long history of debate over the existence of an alleged gorilla-like chimpanzee, known as the kooloo-kamba (an onomatopoeic reference to its call). W. C. Osman Hill was supporting the distinction of this form (as a Pan troglodytes subspecies) as recently as the late 1960s (Hill 1967, 1969). Supposedly, P. t. kooloo-kamba [originally Troglodytes kooloo-kamba Du Chaillu, 1860; sic: hyphens are not permitted in scientific names] has a gorilla-like nose, ‘an extremely prognathic face’, an entirely black face, and small, black ears. It also lives singly or in small groups, rather than in large troops. It was thought to inhabit Cameroon, Gabon and the former French Congo,

Weird eyes on this fellow.

Although both areas are fairly close, they do not appear to be the same type sub-species/ critter.

With regards to the image of the first creature, people may find this video interesting....

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They did DNA testing on him.....what was the result?


The aspect of rape is interesting in the discussion about how a new species can be born. What if Oliver were to breed with another primate. Say a human. He was absolutely stronger than the lady....

Neandertals are often said to have been "bred out" by humans. However, they were more powerful. The female was as formidable as the male. So it makes you wonder.

Thanks for sharing. i am going to read up on Oliver this evening.

Originally posted by MuzzleBreak
The locals in Bili refer to Bili Apes as “Lion Killers”. While chimps tend to stay in the trees and make good prey for big cats, Bili Apes nest on the ground like gorillas and have been reported to hunt lions.

These guys OG!

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