-Is this a kind of a parsian humor? How exacly are they planning to responce to both US and Israel?
Those mullahs are very stupid to state such threats.
Iranian army is not a threat against Israel, and sure not against the United States.
I think they are trying to suicide with such statements! It's fashionable those days!

In case the mullahs gone nuts- THEY can't defeat the US army!

As also here are for the mullahs some of the world records of the Israeli Air Force:

-June 5, 1967 - the Six Day War: The destruction of the entire Egyptian air-force within 3 hours. By the end of the day the Syrian and Jordanian air forces were wiped out as well. The IAF shoot-down total at the end of the war was a claimed record of 451 enemy aircraft downed versus of its own 10 downed. See: Operation Red Sheet.

-Obtaining the first shoot-downs for the American fighter jets, the F-15 and the F-16.

-1981: The destruction of the Iraqi Osiraq nuclear reactor. 8 IAF F-16 fighters flew to Iraq and bombed the nuclear facilties of Osiraq. Among the pilots that took part in the attack was the late Ilan Ramon, Israel's first astronaut.

-1982: The destruction of the entire Syrian air-defence system in Lebanon without a single warplane lost. Also acheaving a total of 100 Syrian planes shoot-downs, without a single IAF warplane lost in dogfights.

-1985: The bombing of PLO Headquarters in Tunis, Tunisia, the longest mission ever undertaken by the IAF.

-The only documented emergency landing of an F-15 with only one wing.

-39 IAF pilot shot down at least 5 jet planes, 10 out of them shot down at least 8 jet planes.

-Major General Giora Epstein shot down 17 (seventeen) jet planes, holding the world record of jets shot down.

-687 enemy warplanes were shot down in dogfights by IAF warplanes since the independence day of Israel in 1948, while only 23 IAF warplanes were shot down in dogfights by enemy warplanes since 1948.

Sources: CIA world's fact book, wikipedia, IAF.



-Is this some sort of a war declaration by the Iranian fanatic dictators?
They are simply begging for an invasion I guess.

Go get them America and Israel!

Freedom For Iran!

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dont see the humor in that unless this is american humor?

all it states is that Iran will defend its self in any means its has at its disposal
like any other country.

Indeed.
Iran has been calling for Israel's and USA's death since 1979.
They are hoping to achieve their wish with a nuclear arsenal, as doing terror attacks doesn't help them.
Iranian presdient and other officials stated few times in the last few years that "killing 5 million jews worth the death of 50 million Iranians", and on their Shihab-3 missiles written "Death to Israel" and on others "Death to America". (Atleast there is one progress here- they actually named the name Israel instead of their usual "Zionists").
Iran is calling for the detsruction of Israel and USA, Iran is the number 1 in supporting and doing terrorism against both USA and especially Israel, and Iranian ayatulah regime must end.
Before 1979 Israel and USA had full relationships with Iran, and this status should be restored, and Iranian people want to be released from their dictators, and we must respond to their call.

Few months ago, Iranians were talking on the Israeli radio, specific designed to broadcast for Iran (far from the hands of the mullahs) and when the Israeli Defence Minister, Shaul Mofaz, was talking there, he recieved calls to the program from Iranians who asked Israel to releace the Persians from the Mullahs, as the Persian king released the Israelis 2500 years ago, and let them build the 2nd temple in Jerusalem!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe there is a hope!

It would seem that a direct and provable link to Iran of the drone flight, could easily justify (at least internationally), an Isrealli response of bombing the nuke facilities in Iran. Perhaps that's why the Isrealis didn't shoot it down???

Why the hell do you think thats funny? You should realise that they are dead serious, and if israel touches them then the missiles will fly.

And more power to them.

Are u stupid? If Iran attacks Israel then who else will they attack? I think that any COUNTRY should have access to nuclear power but not any REGIME which includes the Iranian excuse for a government. They wouldnt hesitate in giving terrorists access to nuclear arms because they really hate the US and west in general therefore they should be stopped from having these weapons. The US has the ability to stop Iran and they will use it, its just a matter of time.

Has anyone here studied the Iraq / Iran war? Iran has got to be the stupidest military power on earth. They kept religious leaders at all levels of command. Many times military commanders were overridden by the mullahs so that human waves could attack fortified Iraqi positions. Millions upon millions of Iranian’s died in futile attacks.

Iraq had trouble dealing with these massed waves because they had no decisive air power. We don’t suffer from that problem and any attack by Iran on our troops would be very unsuccessful and very bloody (for the Iranian forces).

A few missiles (even nukes), will not alter the borders anywhere in the middle east. But it could signal the destruction of Persia and perhaps most of the Muslim world.

Iran is very stupid to try and play this game, but that is what you get when you let religious zealots run amok.

Question? With the US having 'problems' in Iraq how would it respond to Iran if it were to attack?

Does the US have the manpower to fight a second war at this point in time?

Our "problems" in Iraq are a low-level conflict with Iran not a rebellion by real iraqi's. If Iran want's to escalate the issue then fine with us.

Yes, our divisions could handle a major Iranian offensive. Probably less than one division could break up a cross-border assult.

B-52's work amazingly well against large massed troop formations. Thier armor, what they have, wouldn't make it 2 miles into Iraq before a squadren or two of Cobras or Apaches mangled em. Airforce? Do they have one? Thier little navy would be wiped out very quickly.

Now..if they threw say 3-4 million at us at once we'd be busy little beavers for about a month...but the outcome is not really an issue. Probably have to ship an extra division just to handle the sheer weight of numbers (ie: prisoners).


I don't think thier military would obey an order to attack us. It would be the end of the mullahs most likely.

I have studied this war. This war occured months after a revolution which saw fanatics take power and kill most the piolets, generals and every military figure Iran had. So without people to guid their weapons they destroyed the Iraqi navy over night and stoped Iraqi adavces into the first year and in the second year they were in Iraq and were about to capture Baghdad and Iraq was about to fall. All this was done without a proper millitary and without proper weapons. That is where the US comes in. Iraq shot one of the US ships, a stark I beleive, and some how Iran became the evil one. US launched a full scale naval attack on Iran and after 6 years if embargo Iran could not maintain its ships and they were targets fire for the US ships. This is the same year when Iran started to launch chemical weapons on Iranian and kurdish civilian and army, with the full backing of the US. Iranians saw what was happening, that no one wanted them to win the war so they stopped volounteering to go to the front and that was when the wars was over. And by the way "Millions upon millions" of Iranians didnt die, some sources say close to half a million, I beleive it was close to a million but millions upon millions is an exageration to say the least.



That is very questionable.




You seriously dont like Iran or the government do you? One nuke and half the ISraeli population will get wiped out, the Iran will get wiped out. I hope this will never happen but one nuke will alter many things

Please post me a link quoting Khatami saying that. If you cannot dont make things up.

Ummm, so does that mean that hezbolla (lebonan) can bombard all of Israel because they have had their air violated?

How many chemical or biological weapons hve the terrorists used? Iran has been making them since the late 80s. The fact that they have not provided terrorists with these weapons demonstrates the fact that Iran had its limits for supporting "terrorism" or as US would have put it in the 80s "freedom fighters"

How many Iranians have the US captured in their campaigns?



Well maybe Iran will do as you say and line up 3 million people in a straight line and walk them into Iraq or maybe they will go slowly. I will let you guess what will happen.



Iran might not have the armour like you but they make Cobras thanks to you. Their airfoce might not be much but they can shoot down your Cobras and Apaches with the Stingers, again thanks to you. Their airfore is not strong but they have some very good anti-air missiles which might pose a problem. And their navy, lets just say they can clear the entire gulf in a matter of hours, thankss to the russians and their Sunburns which can be launched from the ground around the gulf. If iran controls the gulf for a few weeks whos is going to supply the soldires in Iraq?



Again you are over estimating your own military. 4 million armed men ( the same people that volunteered for the war in Iraq and throw out the invaders with no weapons) with rifles and anti-aircraft missiles are something to be feared.




If the mullahs were that easy to take down the US would have done it in the 80s or 90s when they had no weapons. But they didnt. Maybe it was because they still had the support of the people but I would like to hear what you have to say about this