Originally posted by DontTreadOnMe
reply to post by James1982
There's certain classes of products that must use land only methods to ship.
Certain beauty supplies, cleaning supplies, canned air must travel by carriers such as UPS ground.
Somebody was likely cutting corners, was unaware or didn't care.
Indeed, I would think whoever shipped that stuff out will be in a decent amount of trouble with their employer.
I worked as a shipping and receiving clerk for several years at different companies and I've seen some shady stuff, usually done by the higher ups at
the company. Overnighting full pressure vessels, various chemicals without proper MSDS, etc. Any experienced shipping and receiving guy would likely
know not to do these things, but when an ignorant manager is getting yelled at by a customer about late product they tend to bend and break quite a
few rules and laws to make them happy.
To the previous poster who showed a quote about VX coming up in tests, my apologies, I didn't see that in the article. I skimmed it quickly instead of
reading it thoroughly, something I usually get upset at others for doing, shame on me. Anyway, I'm no expert so I have no idea how their detection
methods work and if it's possible to have false positives and that sort of thing. Very odd indeed if it was actually VX, I'll have to do some research
So I guess the reason I didn't see the mention of actual VX was because that was in a link added later, not the first one I read.
I'm a little curious if the "authorities" actually stated that VX came up in their tests. What I mean is that someone (at the newspaper or somewhere
else) could have heard "nerve gas" and then just assumed they meant VX and ran with it.
There are a few very odd things I don't understand about the most recent link posted:
First of all, they said it turned out to be regular nail polish remover. Nail polish remover is usually just acetone. I believe there are some acetone
free removers available (or maybe just lower acetone content? I'm not a nail painting type of guy so I don't know) but anything acetone free would
have a LESS offensive chemical, not a more offensive one.
So I think it's safe to say, if it WAS nail polish remover, acetone is the likely culprit for this scare.
But, that doesn't add up for several reasons. Acetone has a VERY strong odor. VX is odorless. The fact there was such a strong smell should have
immediately indicated that it was NOT VX.
Not only is the odor of acetone strong, it's also very easy to recognize. Really, nobody at that post office location has ever smelled acetone before?
Never had a sister/mom/friend/cousin/etc that was removing nail polish around them?
Then we get onto the effects. The chemical supposedly made the workers sick. I've worked with large volumes of acetone for cleaning purposes, using
over a liter of acetone in a few hours, which means more acetone vapor in the air than there would possibly be from a leaky or broken bottle. I've
never felt the slightest effects. Millions of little girls all over the place are using this stuff in their rooms or whatever, again no massive
outbreak of sick 13 year old girls from acetone exposure.
This leaves be baffled. I'm not trying to imply any sort of conspiracy, but the "facts" as reported do not add up. Most likely just stupid and/or lazy
reporters and lazy post office workers who lied about feeling ill to get some time off. But maybe not.
edit on 11-8-2013 by James1982 because: (no reason given)