It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

Capitalism/Communism Hypocrisy: What's *Really* Going On

page: 1
2

log in

join
share:

posted on Jul, 25 2013 @ 04:54 PM
link   
We tend to believe that the US and is western allies are the "capitalist" nations and we're proud of our system.

We call countries like China and Russia our enemies (or at least used to) and we're still wary about China and don't trust Russia 100% either.

Here some facts. (I say FACTS since I currently write about that subject and do a lot of research in due course of my work).

The super-rich of today, the "picture-book capitalists" are NOT sitting in the US. Today, the "ultra capitalists" which make any US capitalist/corporate look like a big joke are sitting in China and Russia.

If China is supposed a "communist" system, how is it possible that ultra-rich billionaires are in China who have so much money that they need to off-load their money, eg. investing into the bankrupt SO CALLED capitalist countries like the US or UK.

Today, super-rich from China and Russia are investing BILLIONS of dollars and buying real-estate en masse in the UK (London, super-expensive property in the capital) and the US.

Super-rich investors from China and Russia are buying property in Detroit and other US cities because those cities are bankrupt and property is sold of at bargain prices. They buy because they have the money AND they speculate that at some time in the future our economy might get better, eg as an investment.

Real estate companies in the UK and the US are reporting that the rich from China/Russia are the largest group of buying up property at the moment, before all others.

Knowing this, the idea that we still assume China and Russia are "communist" is hilarious, unless someone can explain to me how in an alleged communist society it's possible that billionaires EVEN EXIST. (Isn't the idea alone an oxymoron?)

The irony here is that the cold war and our idea of who our enemies are is based on differences in ideology. We deemed it necessary to protect ourselves "from them" and they deemed it necessary to protect themselves from us...and the idea is still somehow in all our heads...while IN REALITY the difference between ideologies doesn't even exist anymore. For what its worth, China/Russia today is more 'capitalist' than the US. This is where real capitalism is going on today while WE are slowly and steadily going bankrupt (Detroit....) and letting them literally buy out our countries. FACT.
edit on 25-7-2013 by NoRulesAllowed because: (no reason given)




posted on Jul, 25 2013 @ 05:01 PM
link   
Just a point for clarification here. I can see by this and another thread, you're very passionate about this so I don't want to trail into an argument or anything. I notice your writing on this is exclusive to one area though.

When you refer to Capitalism and Communism, are you referring to economic, political or a mash-up of both aspects of national operations and public life? The two can be radically different things, of course and I'd personally say they are here in many ways.

In example.... Who and How the price of a gallon of milk or a new car is determined is an economic issue. Who and How the ordinance is passed saying I can or cannot cross a street at a given point or by only certain painted markings is a political issue. Both have direct impact on my immediate daily life....yet both come from substantially different areas of the same overall system?

Thanks.



posted on Jul, 25 2013 @ 05:04 PM
link   


Today, super-rich from China and Russia are investing BILLIONS of dollars and buying real-estate en masse in the UK (London, super-expensive property in the capital) and the US.


Shoots down the entire premise of the thread doesn' it?

If China was so awesome why are they investing billions of dollars elsewhere

Pretty much the same thing as those evil capitalist's are doing.

Yep I can see the hypocrisy.



posted on Jul, 25 2013 @ 05:06 PM
link   


Knowing this, the idea that we still assume China and Russia are "communist" is hilarious,


Yeah it is hilarious as Russia use to be 'communist' til it went to a 'capitalist model' that is now just a mafia state.

And China the wealth China has is made right here in the ole US of A.

Where in China ghost cities sit empty.
edit on 25-7-2013 by neo96 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 25 2013 @ 05:06 PM
link   
Simply put
The story of the hare and the tortoise comes to mind



posted on Jul, 25 2013 @ 05:26 PM
link   

Originally posted by NoRulesAllowed
We tend to believe that the US and is western allies are the "capitalist" nations and we're proud of our system.

Do we? Most European countries are quite socialist, and/or have deep values from there to keep a sane balance between human value and economy.



Here some facts. (I say FACTS since I currently write about that subject and do a lot of research in due course of my work).

I hope you're not working with anything too important.



The super-rich of today, the "picture-book capitalists" are NOT sitting in the US. Today, the "ultra capitalists" which make any US capitalist/corporate look like a big joke are sitting in China and Russia.

This is as true as claiming that the Capitalist are sitting in the US.



If China is supposed a "communist" system, how is it possible that ultra-rich billionaires are in China who have so much money that they need to off-load their money, eg. investing into the bankrupt SO CALLED capitalist countries like the US or UK.

China has a communist political system and has a base in economy from the same roots, with some recent modifications and local exceptions. There's nothing new or hidden about this, except people's ignorance in the cases where one thinks otherwise. There is no research needed to come up with this.



Today, super-rich from China and Russia are investing BILLIONS of dollars and buying real-estate en masse in the UK (London, super-expensive property in the capital) and the US.

Yes, of course. I would too.



Super-rich investors from China and Russia are buying property in Detroit and other US cities because those cities are bankrupt and property is sold of at bargain prices. They buy because they have the money AND they speculate that at some time in the future our economy might get better, eg as an investment.

And?



Real estate companies in the UK and the US are reporting that the rich from China/Russia are the largest group of buying up property at the moment, before all others.

And?



Knowing this, the idea that we still assume China and Russia are "communist"

Your words, not mine?



unless someone can explain to me how in an alleged communist society it's possible that billionaires EVEN EXIST. (Isn't the idea alone an oxymoron?)

Well.. actually, quite easily, in fact. And it happens every time. Communism is very good for gathering amazing wealth that is unheard of, given that you're in the right spot.



For what its worth, China/Russia today is more 'capitalist' than the US.

Now, this is something that I don't know. Could you please tell me more about this, you having researched this and all?



new topics

top topics
 
2

log in

join