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Originally posted by BABYBULL24
Hey i watch The Big Bang Theory....
Originally posted by NorEaster
Originally posted by adjensen
Originally posted by NorEaster
Schrodinger's point was that the Copenhagen Interpretation was ridiculous. What part of his own words making that point did you have a problem with? The "paradox" was actually a parody.
No, it wasn't.
Schrödinger's cat is a seemingly paradoxical thought experiment devised by Erwin Schrödinger that attempts to illustrate the incompleteness of an early interpretation of quantum mechanics when going from subatomic to macroscopic systems.
Schrödinger proposed his "cat" after debates with Albert Einstein over the Copenhagen interpretation, which Schrödinger defended (Schrödinger's cat)
It's exactly as I described above -- an effort to explain the difficulty of moving from quantum mechanics on the sub-atomic level to classic physics on the macroscopic level. Until someone opens the box and looks, the mathematical state of the cat is both alive and dead, regardless of its actual state, which is not known until the observation is made.
Take it up with Einstein. In his own words....
Maybe Schrodinger didn't actually understand his own point either. At least, this seems to be the case if what your web page states is true.
Of course, the easiest explanation, given the evidence presented, would be that the web page author's statement is inaccurate. Occam's Razor and all that.
Unstable quantum systems are predicted to exhibit a short time deviation from the exponential decay law.[12][13] This universal phenomenon has led to the prediction that frequent measurements during this nonexponential period could inhibit decay of the system, one form of the quantum Zeno effect. Subsequently, it was predicted that an enhancement of decay due to frequent measurements could be observed under somewhat more general conditions, leading to the so-called anti-Zeno effect.[14]
In quantum mechanics, the interaction mentioned is called "measurement" because its result can be interpreted in terms of classical mechanics. Frequent measurement prohibits the transition. It can be a transition of a particle from one half-space to another (which could be used for atomic mirror in an atomic nanoscope[15]) as in the time of arrival problem [16] ,[17] a transition of a photon in a waveguide from one mode to another, and it can be a transition of an atom from one quantum state to another. It can be a transition from the subspace without decoherent loss of a q-bit to a state with a q-bit lost in a quantum computer.[18][19] In this sense, for the q-bit correction, it is sufficient to determine whether the decoherence has already occurred or not. All these can be considered as applications of the Zeno effect.[20] By its nature, the effect appears only in systems with distinguishable quantum states, and hence is inapplicable to classical phenomena and macroscopic bodies.
You've got to be careful of that Quantum mockery, though. One example of quantum mockery was called the "watched pot" experiment. To illustrate the absurdity of the Quantum mechanics, a scientist devised an experiment, where he showed that by making constant observations of radioactive decay, the substance would never decay. He mockingly compared it to the old phrase "a watched pot never boils." So scientists did the experiment, and indeed, radioactive decay, if constantly watched, doesn't happen. The effect is called Quantum Zeno Effect:
Originally posted by Kashai
Any thoughts?
Originally posted by adjensen
Originally posted by Kashai
Any thoughts?
Yes.
Quantum mechanics is weird, and anyone who tells you that they understand it is lying.
Originally posted by adjensen
Originally posted by NorEaster
Take it up with Einstein. In his own words....
It doesn't matter what Einstein had to say, because we know that he didn't understand quantum mechanics in the state that it was in during his life. He was stuck in classic physics and didn't see evidence to back up the claims of the qm physicists at that time.
Saying that Schrödinger was joking when he postulated his cat because Einstein didn't understand it is an unreasonable conclusion.
Maybe Schrodinger didn't actually understand his own point either. At least, this seems to be the case if what your web page states is true.
Of course, the easiest explanation, given the evidence presented, would be that the web page author's statement is inaccurate. Occam's Razor and all that.
I have never seen anyone claim that Schrödinger was joking, apart from you, and I am fairly well read on the subject. He created the thought experiment to explain the difficulty of reconciling quantum mechanics and classic physics, period.
Originally posted by pikestaff
So some cat that does not even have a name creates all these words? Perhaps those 'scientists' who spent so much time ruminating on that damn cat had spent it on food production instead, we would not have so many starving people on this sorry little ball of rock.
'Scientists' are at the other end of the spectrum from 'religious nuts' both hold back human advancement
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Originally posted by NorEaster
Except that the specific quote I provided in the OP states the obvious fact that Schrodinger called the cat analogy a "ridiculous case" in his own words. Man, I provided the link and the link provides the source that was used. You're fighting reality in this situation, not me.
It illustrates what he saw as the problem of the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics applied to everyday objects, resulting in a contradiction with common sense.
Scientists have been able to entangle particles in the lab before, but only under special conditions, by isolating them and cooling them to ultra-low temperatures. "What we did was to demonstrate that you could make these wacky states in these everyday normal objects sitting in a regular laboratory under no particularly special conditions," study author Ian Walmsley says. To do this, his team used a laser to start the crystals of a millimeter-size diamond vibrating. The vibrations were reflected in the diamond’s entangled twin a few centimeters away. The researchers used ultra-fast optical technology to create and measure the entangled state before it broke up.
It was this fast detection that made the diamond entanglement experiment possible. Most physicists, Walmsley says, believe that quantum entanglement is a property present in all objects in our macro world; we just don’t see it happening. "In the everyday environment, objects are connected to other objects," he says. "They’re sitting on the floor, wafting in the wind, and those connections are ways in which information and energy can leak out of one system into another." So objects lose their entanglement quickly. By using super-speedy technology, this team caught the diamonds acting entangled before environmental interactions overcame the effect.
Quantum entanglement is a physical resource, like energy, associated with the peculiar nonclassical correlations that are possible between separated quantum systems. Entanglement can be measured, transformed, and purified. A pair of quantum systems in an entangled state can be used as a quantum information channel to perform computational and cryptographic tasks that are impossible for classical systems. The general study of the information-processing capabilities of quantum systems is the subject of quantum information theory.