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Originally posted by ignorant_ape
reply to post by TDawgRex
what utter twaddle
his statement " complicates " nothing
as - in case no one has noticed - the UCMJ proscribes exactly the same treatment
At Shaw Air Force Base in South Carolina last month, a judge dismissed charges of sexual assault against an Army officer, noting the command influence issue. At Fort Bragg in North Carolina last month, lawyers cited the president’s words in a motion to dismiss the court-martial against Brig. Gen. Jeffrey Sinclair, who is accused of forcing a lower-ranking officer to perform oral sex on him, among other charges.
Originally posted by TDawgRex
[At Shaw Air Force Base in South Carolina last month, a judge dismissed charges of sexual assault against an Army officer, noting the command influence issue. At Fort Bragg in North Carolina last month, lawyers cited the president’s words in a motion to dismiss the court-martial against Brig. Gen. Jeffrey Sinclair, who is accused of forcing a lower-ranking officer to perform oral sex on him, among other charges.
Originally posted by TDawgRex
reply to post by Miracula
I'll ask you again. Please stay on topic.
Thank you
Originally posted by Miracula
Originally posted by TDawgRex
reply to post by Miracula
I'll ask you again. Please stay on topic.
Thank you
You said separation of church and state didn't you?
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
I kinda missed where this had anything remotely to do with the Bible, let alone another Religious Bash? What did I miss and what the heck does Christianity have ANYTHING to do with what Obama said regarding the Military Justice System and Rape in uniform?
Originally posted by Miracula
Originally posted by TDawgRex
When President Obama proclaimed that those who commit sexual assault in the military should be “prosecuted, stripped of their positions, court-martialed, fired, dishonorably discharged,” it had an effect he did not intend: muddying legal cases across the country.
Why? Obama is a Christian. The Old Testament says it is legal to engage in felony rape as long as you marry the girl afterwards.
Originally posted by Miracula
reply to post by TDawgRex
Oh alright. Given your past I'll give it a rest.
Originally posted by Miracula
We had Christian chapels on bases as small as 1,000 people in the Coast Guard, Granted at the time I never knew the Bible condoned rape.
Originally posted by TDawgRex
What was the Britney Spears song. Oh yea! "Oops! I did it again".
www.nytimes.com...
When President Obama proclaimed that those who commit sexual assault in the military should be “prosecuted, stripped of their positions, court-martialed, fired, dishonorably discharged,” it had an effect he did not intend: muddying legal cases across the country.
This is just another example of how this President is influencing things, and not in a good way because he speaks emotionally, not rationally. Maybe it's intentional?
In at least a dozen sexual assault cases since the president’s remarks at the White House in May, judges and defense lawyers have said that Mr. Obama’s words as commander in chief amounted to “unlawful command influence,” tainting trials as a result. Military law experts said that those cases were only the beginning and that the president’s remarks were certain to complicate almost all prosecutions for sexual assault.
I thought that he was a lawyer?
“prosecuted, stripped of their positions, court-martialed, fired, dishonorably discharged,”
Originally posted by TDawgRex
Originally posted by ignorant_ape
reply to post by TDawgRex
what utter twaddle
his statement " complicates " nothing
as - in case no one has noticed - the UCMJ proscribes exactly the same treatment
And the UCMJ also addresses this.
At Shaw Air Force Base in South Carolina last month, a judge dismissed charges of sexual assault against an Army officer, noting the command influence issue. At Fort Bragg in North Carolina last month, lawyers cited the president’s words in a motion to dismiss the court-martial against Brig. Gen. Jeffrey Sinclair, who is accused of forcing a lower-ranking officer to perform oral sex on him, among other charges.
So there is a precedent for it and it is already having consequenses in the military courts.
Am I confused? Are presidents barred from speaking personal opinion?
Do they have free speech?
Why SHOULDN'T those things listed by the president happen to rapists? What insider information did I miss out on?
Originally posted by Dystopiaphiliac
Who the f*** are these moron f***ing judges? They dismissed the case because the president agrees that sexual assault is bad? These judges need to lose their positions. So, in reality, these lawyers are saying that the case should be dropped because the presidents influence now made the rapists case indefensible? That's a huge load of bulls*** and EVERYONE knows it.
In this thread: people defending rapists because of political correctness.
Edit here: To reiterate my statement. Anybody that believes what the president said will "muddy up the waters" is both moronic and illogical.edit on 15-7-2013 by Dystopiaphiliac because: Edit