Supreme Court rules Drug Companies exempt from Lawsuits

stockholders were "celebrating" and this woman suffers in agony, Who pays for the Medical care for her? No reward, no recourse, nada???

Are these bastards aware how many CHILDREN are FORCED to take these drugs?

If that was My daughter, SOMEBODY WOULD BE DYING.

Mark my words on that one...

THAT is the ONLY way this murdering garbage Will change,

EYE FOR AN EYE.

Originally posted by Helious

Originally posted by Merlin Lawndart
Monsanto is exempt, big pharma is exempt, the Fed is exempt, none can be held accountable in court. You know what these people aren't exempt from? People taking to the streets, dragging them out of their homes and publicly lynching their asses.

That's the medicine I prescribe for these people, I doubt the FDA will approve it but who cares.

EXACTLY,

It never ceases to amaze me how soooo many Americans just wink, wink at the outright MURDERS that Pharma does on a DAILY BASIS. And they Damn well Know it too. FDA, a Fnk JOKE if there ever was one. They allow KNOWN harmful psychotropics all the damn time,

PHARMA IS BIG MINING BUSINESS. Fact. It's even MORE amazing at how few even Realize this fact or Know that PHARMA MINING is the Equivalent of MILITARY WEAPON MINING...

HUGE DIVIDENDS.

So of Course it's THE best money racket there is and MURDERING COMMON FOLKS IS GUARANTEED WEALTH.

Now with Obama Care it will be even More incentive for these butchering bastards to force more Pharma drugs and Watch the side effects and deaths go up...and TAX PAYERS WILL BE FOOTING THE BILL. No wonder the Stock Demons are rejoicing. AND what many don't know, is that it's Very common for the companies to REPACKAGE known dangerous drugs with Serious side effects under a different name. Most people don't check out the side effects watch dog sites,

AND that's ONLY the ones reported, even harder to track generic.

And here's the Real Infuriation, try going the ALTERNATIVE ROUTE, the FDA, PHARMA and NANNY BITCH STATE are the FIRST to go after That market, even forbidding it. How DARE you have autonomy over your own LIFE LIBERTY HEALTH you SLAVE...

And of course rob us of our Profit. That's the me tality of the DR MENGELE INDUSTRY and why it will take a Bloody War to END THEM.

Everyone of those stockholders who Cheered over this while that Woman suffers like that,

Should be hung on a pole and skinned alive, sloooooowly.

meanwhile, they pay for rape and torturing kids in Numerous countries (or send Drones to mining districts, ethnic cleansing for MINING LAND anyone, hmmmm) for MINING

I keep screaming MINING yet few research it...it's not just the money trail, it's the MINING TRAIL and it's A BLOOD DEMON INFESTED ONE AT THAT. They all in bed together, destroying the earth, water, whole communities, then selling their SORCERY POISONS while having the NERVE to call themselves HEALERS and

MURDERING MILLIONS...

And laughing ALL THE WAY TO THEIR BANKS.

Take pharma pills it's a gamble, psychotropics it's GUARANTEED...death and PERMANENT BRAIN ORGAN DAMAGE

But they prescribe away and now Obama Care and

Generic Meds get a FREE RIDE TO MURDER US WITH NO RECOURSE,

Yep, that's a CALL TO WAR in my opinion.

But Sadly most folks are so Brainwashed they'll let the SORCERESS murder them while Thanking them for being murdered, go figure

Originally posted by neo96


So she still can sure the original name brand manufacturer.?

edit on 9-7-2013 by neo96 because: (no reason given)

Appears so, and I think that this is why the generics have law suit protection. BY the time any drug becomes available as a generic (which is identical in every way to the name brand original drug) a side effect such as "may cause flesh eating disease" would have already been discovered. I can't remember the last time I saw a generic drug involved in legal proceedings.

It's always the original name brand that gets sued.

Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by Bluesma

 

How can you sue the brand name, for a drug another company made? They would likely just try and shirk the blame onto the generic company, that can't be held responsible for it. Say they didn't follow the proper protocol or screwed up their ratios or something.

Generic versions of name brand drugs are IDENTICAL to the name brand. Basically, any drug's patent has a shelf life to allow for research, development, testing, and finally profit. Once the drug has been on the market for a certain period of time, the patent is removed and a generic version can be offered by any other drug company. The generic must be exactly the same, and why wouldn't it be? The actual "recipe" for the drug is available for use.

If big pharma's drugs are "EXEMPT FROM LAWSUITS", is it now OK to copy them all with no chance of being sued?

No, this is probably one sided and even though there may be an appeal it's time to take more drastic action.

BURN THEM ALL TO THE GROUND AND HANG ALL EMPLOYEES.

nevermind

Originally posted by SpaDe_
Still think it's possible to change the system from within and without any violence? I laugh at the people who think there is a way.

edit on 7/9/2013 by SpaDe_ because: (no reason given)

I do think it's possible to change the system non-violently, but not from within.

Originally posted by nerbot
If big pharma's drugs are "EXEMPT FROM LAWSUITS",

It doesn't say that.

is it now OK to copy them all with no chance of being sued?

As long as you follow all the required labeling and other stuff required by the FDA.

No, this is probably one sided and even though there may be an appeal it's time to take more drastic action.

BURN THEM ALL TO THE GROUND AND HANG ALL EMPLOYEES.

Even just as an anonymous post on a forum this is wrong on even more levels than what you are complaining about!!

This is an illegal ruling and makes the judges rogue treasonous criminals so people need to pay attention and work to rid their country of these villians and see that there are laws to imprison corrupt judges By being so very loud that that the politiicans draft those laws, and that the people vote all those criminals out and only run their own people.

Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul

Originally posted by nerbot
If big pharma's drugs are "EXEMPT FROM LAWSUITS",

It doesn't say that.

Yes it does. Once in this thread's title, once in the post heading and once again in the quoted external source text. You did read the OP didn't you?

Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul

Originally posted by nerbot
BURN THEM ALL TO THE GROUND AND HANG ALL EMPLOYEES.

Even just as an anonymous post on a forum this is wrong on even more levels than what you are complaining about!!

"Wrong" is in the eye of the beholder and depends on one's scruples and whether one sides with the power and money mad big pharma protected by political patsies or it's victims who suffer unwittingly and helplessly at their feet.

Grow some you know whats.

Originally posted by nerbot

Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul

Originally posted by nerbot
If big pharma's drugs are "EXEMPT FROM LAWSUITS",

It doesn't say that.

Yes it does. Once in this thread's title, once in the post heading and once again in the quoted external source text. You did read the OP didn't you?

not only did I read it - but I understood it - perhaps you could try that too?

Let's look at what is ACTUALLY says:

what is ACTUALLY says is that you cannot sue the makers of GENERIC drugs because they aer making the drugs under het approval of the FDA, so they are not the people responsible for testing and safety of those drugs - the FDA and the original manufacturers are..

It says nothing at all about suing the original makers of the drugs.

Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul

Originally posted by nerbot
BURN THEM ALL TO THE GROUND AND HANG ALL EMPLOYEES.

Even just as an anonymous post on a forum this is wrong on even more levels than what you are complaining about!!

"Wrong" is in the eye of the beholder and depends on one's scruples and whether one sides with the power and money mad big pharma protected by political patsies or it's victims who suffer unwittingly and helplessly at their feet.

Advocating murder is wrong.

Grow some you know whats.

Originally posted by usernameconspiracy

Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by Bluesma

 

How can you sue the brand name, for a drug another company made? They would likely just try and shirk the blame onto the generic company, that can't be held responsible for it. Say they didn't follow the proper protocol or screwed up their ratios or something.

Generic versions of name brand drugs are IDENTICAL to the name brand. Basically, any drug's patent has a shelf life to allow for research, development, testing, and finally profit. Once the drug has been on the market for a certain period of time, the patent is removed and a generic version can be offered by any other drug company. The generic must be exactly the same, and why wouldn't it be? The actual "recipe" for the drug is available for use.

Actually only the active ingredient has to be identical to the brand name drug, the chemical fillers can be different and many times cheaper, this being generic. There are some patients who have adverse reactions to generics and can only take brand named meds. Patients can also have different reactions to identical drugs from different manufacturers. I work in a retail pharmacy.

reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul


Uh, NO...and since one of the Gov offices where my extended family (not affiliated with However, for reasons too long to go into Here) is the FDA, EPA and another though believe she's passed IRS,

I say, BULL KAKI.

One the FDA Damn well knows the dangers if these pharma drugs...and you cannot Sue the FDA. So to "shift" the responsibility onto the FDA the judges of Hades damn well Know there will be NO JUSTICE, and THAT IS ACCESSORY TO MURDER AND HARM FOR PROFIT. PERIOD.

As for going after the parent pharma corp, Same thing, they have WAYS around avoiding Taking OWNERSHIP

Therefore, and Being that this particular drug ON THIS CASE that DESTROYED THIS WOMAN

HAD NO WARNING Whatsoever

THAT is Reckless WILLFUL INTENT TO DO HARM TO CITIZENS

And when the SUPREME CROOKS rule that these VICTIMS and they ARE VICTIMS have ZERO recourse,

That is a MURDERING ASSISTING

RACKET.

So Who is MURDERING HERE?

THEY ARE, and to DEFEND THAT

Means YOU WOULD BE AN ACCESSORY TO THAT RACKET.

For those ANGRY and RIGHTFULLY SO over the fact that INNOCENT, I REPEAT! INNOCENT PEOPLE WHO

PUT THEIR TRUST IN MEDICINE! TO WIND UP HARMED by BIG P HARMA

And THEN to be told, OH WELL TOO BAD

While STOCKHOLDERS CELEBRATE as the article DID say

Is NORMAL DECENT HUMAN REACTION TO

INJUSTICE,

And being that Majority of Elderly WHO VOTE mind you are Forced to go with Generics, and NOW have been told tough, if the Industry Willingly harms you oh well

IS PURE EVIL.

To Support this # in any way shape manner or form

I didn't care WHAT Legalalities of EVIL it's painted under

DESERVES TO BE YES

LYNCHED.

Damn straight...

They keep Harming AMERICAN INNOCENTS, ONE DAY

THE REAPER WILL WANT A HARVEST.

REAP WHAT YOU SOW..

IT'S COMING, EXPECT IT.

Especially since THOUSANDS of CHILDREN are giving Pharma POISONS and VACCINES

Now they are to have Zero recourse,

Yea, ya know, you can FOOL the PEASANTS Some of the time but not ALL of the time.

ONE day there will be a HUGE TSUNAMI of VICTIMS who want BLOOD

But I'll let you in on a little secret, to these Luciferian types,

The People may be Powerless,

But the EARTH IS NOT.

And One thing the EARTH will not tolerate for ever and that is being forced to drink the Blood of INNOCENTS

When she's had enough, and that Day of INIQUITY is coming ALL THE DEMONS IN HADES WONT BE ABLE TO HOLD HER BACK

And SCIENCE CANNOT CONTROL HER NOW, OR EVER...

just wait and see, and SHE WILL get JUSTICE for these VICTIMS.

It's History...those Bees are dying, Fukishima is pouring, the Rivers are drying up,

The RICH CANNOT BUY OR BRIBE THEIR WAY OUT OF JUDGEMENT.

And IF they RUN to a SPACE STATION,

SHE WILL GET THEM THERE AS WELL.

ASTEROIDS...

Mark my words, THEY'VE MADE THEIR ETERNAL BEDS

They may LAUGH NOW

But they VIOLATED Universes Laws...they WILL PAY. To the Last drop of innocent blood they shed to the Last tear they cried...

Every Single One.

They will Know TERROR that defies human evil. wait and See...

Here is another source:

Supreme Court Rules in Favor of...

It is true, sadly. I am appalled and frightened. Thanks for bringing this to my attention, OP!

peace,
AB

reply to post by ThreeBears

OK, I understand. You want pharmaceutical companies to have more rigorous testing protocols. Got ya.

How do they compare to Monsanto, Abortionists, Jihadists, Westboro Baptist, and Obama. Or are pharmaceuticals so horrendous that nothing else on earth compares?

The justices in this case point out that there was a conflict between an individual state law and the federal law. The state law wanted a label change. The federal law prohibited a label change. An additional circumstance was that an insert did specify skin lesions and/or fatalities. No one, including the M.D., apparently, read this insert. It's not clear from the short version I read whether or not the original drug had this problem as well as the generic.

There are a number of drugs advertised on T.V. that list potential horrific side-effects including fatalities.

The generic maker, knowing these potential side-effects, had options. These options were:

1. Not make the drug at all.
2. Go through a lengthy and costly FDA process to re-label as a new drug.

Those were the honorable options. They chose instead to comply with federal generic regulations which, here, seem to be tied to commerce and not safety.

The justices felt that tampering with the flow of commerce (the sale of the generic) was a greater evil than human life. They likened it to an actor who, in order to act for a living, must violate either a state or a federal law because they conflict and so ceases acting. Really...anybody has to understand that there is something so wrong with this reasoning. An individual life is so vastly more important than any corporate profits - there's not even a scale you could put the two together on. Time for a change we can experience and not just believe in.

Originally posted by charles1952
reply to post by ThreeBears

 

OK, I understand. You want pharmaceutical companies to have more rigorous testing protocols. Got ya.

How do they compare to Monsanto, Abortionists, Jihadists, Westboro Baptist, and Obama. Or are pharmaceuticals so horrendous that nothing else on earth compares?

Herring question, but I'll give it a go. first of all, how they Compare, let's see,

1. They all earn a Profit in one form or another, Westboro via tithes, book sales perhaps, though Interesting to earn via tithes they would have to appeal to the same types, thinking wise. Abortionists, earn profit obviously, though That is a loaded issue which in of itself would have to be separated from preventative abortions (where mothers life is in danger) to late term etc. depending on Where you sit looking at that issue, etc., there is a host of issues there However IF just looking at the Upper echelon of engineers behind abortionists aka Eugenics/population control I would say they are of the same Ideology of the philosophy that is behind Big Pharma, though in a different means. Monsanto would be similar, as would Jihadists, and Obama..

The One thing (sorry working this out as I type and I would need to really ponder over this question) but just now, the ONE THING they ALL have in common,

"is they Justify HARM for PROFIT under the Guise, of Bettering Mankind.". THEIR VISION of what MANKIND should be ACCORDING TO THEM. For PROFIT. For their "Collective Own".

That's what the ENGINEERS BEHIND ALL of these have in COMMON.

They all promise a UTOPIA, a Utopia that to THEM is one where only, ONLY THEIR KIND of Astheticly pleasing AND CONVENIENT to Their Goals is allowed to have Life, Liberty and Pursuit of happiness. Their Philosophy, speaking of the ENGINEERS/THINK TANKS now Behind these ideaologies is that they are doing good by ridding their hindrance of Their VISION of UTOPIA out of existence.

As for the abortion, that's a bit more of an ethical complex debate In that in my opinion (womens body, rights, forced pregnancies, rape, etc) ABORTION IS A SYMPTOM RATHER THAN A ROOT and what I mean by that is, just my personal opinion, the Issue behind abortion is Never addressed, as for the Causals of, it's skirted around, transferred, etc by Both anti abortionists and pro abortionists alike..But as for the Engineers I don't think they give a Damn about womens rights or women, hardly, it's the NUMBERS they are after, eugenics, etc. Which is why I prefer to focus on REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS/ETHICS and not just the catch phrase Abortion, which leaves out a whole host of other ABUSES that lead up to abortion. I'm pro choice BUT I am against abortions Except in cases of rape, where mothers life is in danger and only in early stage. I AM for however, Empowering Mothers both economically without dependence on patriarchy, birthing rights, anti exploitation and body autonomy WITH responsibility, which includes ending male entitlements to sex, Entitlements, to clarify that, ending porn culture and putting POWER Back into Woman/Womb and getting rid of this whole passive pedowanks Barbie doll bimbo culture...and I believe IF we did that we would severely Limit forced pregnancies and abortions. I am of a rare Eco feminist naturalist view on this issue...but I do NOT agree with the Bioethics, eugenics and totalitarianism on Either side of the abortion issue, be it misogynist patriarchal forced birthing or misogynist exploitation of women while pushing for eugenics/elitism. Just to clarify that, I do think Women, not MEN, need to take BACK WOMEN'S SPACE not just over their bodies but over their autonomy in ALL areas, but it ain't gonna happen in our lifetime, too much Colonized Minds and Mind Binding so, sigh
[note, Before the explosion of patriarchal religion ancient women of many a tribe were knowledgable about natural herbal birth control, etc. then the witch hunts, etc erased a Lot of that Knowledge. Use to be Birthing was Women's space, in Numerous cultures, not all but in many. Where now women, Are so passive that they believe autonomy is only about sex/abortion, when really it goes much deeper than that. So when we discuss Choice in this era we still are defining choice within a Patriarchal framework, again I have some minority views on that subject, and do not agree with the mainstream on EITHER SIDE OF THAT ISSUE, just saying]


But yea, are Pharma worse?

I think due to the Power Stratifications that Pharma has, that yes they are worse, then let's say Westboro. Westboro does not gain their Lobbying advantage via MINING and MILITARIZED MINING BACKING...Big Pharma, is a whole other beast, far up the echelon pyramid. Where Westboro is a tentacle below f the Octopus/pyramid.

But again, to sum it up, the Common or Lowest denominator, would have to be the Utopian Totalitarian Elitist view they all have, for profit, under the guide of a visionary Utopia where THEY ARE GOD

Life and death,

And who they destroy does not matter to them, like Sociopaths...and the More POWER they have the SOONER they'll DESTROY all who don't "fit" into their vision of things.

Kind of a simplistic way of putting it...read Origins of Totalitarianism, by Hannah Arendt,

She touched on a lot of this. AGAIN, I'm referring to the Engineers BEHIND the Industries, like an umbrella, with all the rods that hold it up. Pharma yes, is be of the Major key instruments to the Sorceress,

Always has been since the ancients.

reply to post by ThreeBears

Dear ThreeBears,

That was a stunningly wonderful post. I'm ashamed to say that I wasn't expecting such quality. Well, I was wrong. Thank you for taking such effort for an old fool.

With respect,
Charles1952

Originally posted by charles1952
reply to post by ThreeBears

 

Dear ThreeBears,

That was a stunningly wonderful post. I'm ashamed to say that I wasn't expecting such quality. Well, I was wrong. Thank you for taking such effort for an old fool.

With respect,
Charles1952

Ah Thank you, that is so sweet. yea I often am a grumpy old hag, but I do have a nice spot I just don't show it a lot, lol. you Know the thing about many of these issues, is where one sits, that whole personal is political and vice versa thing.

As a woman I have been in several sides of "some" of these issues however, due to reading a lot on the higher up agendas if we can call them that, well international policies and histories, that opened my eyes to a Lot of the overall agendas that many don't see because they see from the subjective, etc. I even understand some of the utopian because I once, sadly was of that mindset myself. In my more younger days. But it took Being in that centralized type of narrow environment to see for myself the evil of banality...

And it's There that most never see it because it's not until you're in the thick of it that you see what's behind the Benevolant masks of a lot of these agendas. And when you Do see it, it's shocking because it is such a shaking of all the foundations you invest in, etc. first there is the denial then the anger, then well for me it was more research...most dont research,

They hear these slogan campaigns and emotional appeals and they are great, on paper...but it's what's BEHIND them that, is a nightmarish plan and that's what I saw, myself in my political days, and people who realize will do one of two things,

They'll either Rationalize to hang in to their idealism OR they'll revolt against. Etc.

I went independent...took several years but yea, a lot what Jones, and Dice, etc say is true...but then, a lot of the analysis of the problems from the Utopias is true too. I think the overall problem is though is those who Own the resources, power, etc., are so unattached to the Populus that they truly believe they are "gods"

And seriously, many of these intellectuals are flat out sociopaths. I'm talking the higher fields of science, etc. see birds, they fly, they are of the air, but they are still connected to the land and trees for resources, they stay connected,

Where as, I think many leaders, power holders, are like birds, but they don't connect to the trees or land or other life forms, they so stick up in the air that they lost all equilibrium in ethics and thinking.

Probably not the best analogy, but something like that.