What is the Greatest Truth?

reply to post by randyvs


And yet "God" always needs more of it...

reply to post by AfterInfinity

And yet "God" always needs more of it.

Never thought I,d see a straight out lie from you AI. Or such a ridiculous statement.

Oh wait your sig.

Originally posted by earthling42

A wise individual would probably say, i have nothing to teach you, no answers.
Why? descriptions are not the actual, unless one finds it out for oneself, one will be unable to understand.
It has not come through spiritual striving, but from someone else and it is beleived to be true, adopted from her as an authority because it is believed she knows.

It is the same trap all over again.

It cannot be taught but hearing about 'it' is just amazing to hear. I agree descriptions are not the actual and until it happens it probably sounds ridiculous. It will never be 'believed' to be true - never. Those who want something to believe in will never want what Lisa is speaking about. Who wants to find out that they are emptiness? Maybe that is why the truth stays hidden.
It's just a game of hide and seek oneness plays - of course if it wants to playing the game it will just keep looking the other way.

The seeking mechanism will seek regardless, maybe seeking in this direction will wake consciousness up.

There is no such thing as a greater or lesser truth. There can only exist THE truth. Each person's experience dealing with this truth, each person's ability to conceive the truth, each person's belief in the truth's mere existance may differ; but that does not change the truth. THE TRUTH is constant and definite.

the truth is most often conjoined to an event, and is thus emergent.
I would suppose, knowing all the precedents and properties of this event would represent knowing the truth of said event.
Mostly we declare truth from partial data.

For more systemic truths we can look toward the astronomical and mathematical constants.

for other more mystical interpretations of the word "truth". just pick some crazy ass idea and declare
truth="my stupid idea"

Mark Twain said that the lack of money is the root of all evil.

This idea holds just as much water as does this "absolute truth"
that money itself is the root of all evil. Why? Because these two
ideas are not opposites, as they might first appear. Indeed, when
you think about it, the two ideas actually reinforce each other.

The real evil is the FALSE AUTHORITY behind the money. It is the
money masters of the fiat system who can increase liquidity at will
and who can also contract the money supply, who hold the power.
They are the unseen hand of history, the open conspiracy hidden
in plain view.

Money controls our lives. Simply stated, it is the ubiquitous control
architecture of a political structure. While we don’t think about it,
money functions as an Artificial Intelligent ruling almost every human
enterprise.

In effect people who love false authority (money) are under a form of
mind control. That “mind control” is greed, but how does a False Authority
get your greed to serve them? That answer is fiat money, this is the basis
of the Matrix or Artificial Intelligence we call the Matrix. It is the means
(the mind control method) by which evil leaders (false authorities) extract
their taxes, steal your labor, reduce your wealth, and control the society,
and bring their own brand of order out of the chaos.The dystopian future
that Sci-Fi writers fear is coming? Well, it is here, and it has been for
a very long, long time.

Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by dave_welch

 

For the love of money is the root of all evil

King James Bible Cambridge version

You can't change what the passage is telling us. An absolute truth. Sorry !

I didn't change what the passage was telling you, I simply read the entire sentence
and used common sense to ascertain the meaning this author was trying to convey.
However, if you want to go on believing that this sentence fragment is an absolute
truth, don't let a little thing like context stop you.

This “God wrote it, I believe it” brand of Bible study (if you can all it that) often fails
to apply this all important principle of the truth seeking process: get the context.
It’s easy to rip verses out of their cultural and literary context so we can slap them
on a bumper sticker, but doing so violates the basic rules of reading comprehension.

The easy-answer approach makes it that much easier to misuse or abuse the Bible.
A number of recent evils, from modern sexism to slavery and genocide, can be and
have been backed up by carefully selected passages of Scripture. A better approach
is to read the Bible with careful analysis of context, an acknowledgment of its complexity
and a healthy dose of humility.

When one studies the Bible they ought to read the context, otherwise they are likely
to say, "you can't change what the passage is telling me" (or words to the effect)
when a person is simply show them the context or reading the whole passage.

If there was one bit of wisdom, one rule of thumb, one single skill I could impart,
one useful tip I could leave with anyone read thins that would serve them well the
rest of their life? What would it be? What is the single most important practical
skill I've ever learned in my search for understanding the Bible?

Here it is: Never read a Bible verse. That's right, never read a Bible verse.
Instead, always read a paragraph at least.

For the love of money is the root of all evil

But is this an accurate statement? Is it an absolute truth?
Is money the root of ALL evil? No it is not. It would be more
correct to say money is the root of all KINDS of evil, and
this is in fact what that passage does say.

reply to post by wasaka

Mark Twain said that the lack of money is the root of all evil.

This idea holds no water at all. In fact Twain was a drunk.
I point to a world where all men are freely given everything both
needed and desired and all are equal as long as they fulfill their
perspective jobs in contribution to the society without the need of bankers
and upper class period. Imagine the concept. Don't be obtuse.
All based on the solid absolute and undeniable truth that with out money
so goes the love of money and so goes all the evil attached there with in.

reply to post by Itisnowagain


Well i cannot speak for others, but i had not known of Lisa if you were not spreading her video's on ATS.
She is a quite handsome woman who earns her money with talks.
Is that just because she is so amazing to hear? or do you think they come and pay for an answer to their question.

What is the Greatest Truth?

reply to post by Akragon


Thyself!

The greatest truth?
I am!

Truth is behind the nonsense you call Mind. Giving your mind food for thought, would be a disservice. No answer is probably the best answer to that question.

reply to post by Akragon


The greatest truth is to have pure love for that which gave us the privelege of being a being of light with senses. Pure love for your fellow man as you would want to love yourself and as you should. On this all the world hangs, as I have come to realize that this world could not exist without unconditional pure love as it's cornerstone. As should we all be.

This hangs in the core of every ancient religion and a few more "recent" ones. Until men who want power obscure this truth and make a dogmatic idolizing "religion" out of it.

Love you all, hope you love me, and believe we will all one day share this love together, in this form of energy or another.

Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by wasaka

 

Mark Twain said that the lack of money is the root of all evil.

This idea holds no water at all. In fact Twain was a drunk.

I point to a world where all men are freely given everything both
needed and desired and all are equal as long as they fulfill their
perspective jobs in contribution to the society without the need of bankers
and upper class period. Imagine the concept. Don't be obtuse.
All based on the solid absolute and undeniable truth that with out money
so goes the love of money and so goes all the evil attached there with in.

So you reject Mark Twain's statement because he is a drunk
and then go to agree with him... what am I missing here?

Maybe I am being obtuse, but it sounds like you agree with me.

What I said was these two ideas, 1) evil results from the lack
of money, and 2) evil results from the love of money, are
actually that same idea. Namely, that the real problem is
the False Authority that controls money. Not money itself.

In short, I maintain the true source of evil in this world is
what I call False Authority. You can call that Satan if you
want to, but really it is any force that would influence
you to deny who and what you really are. Any force
that controls you. Any force that robs you of your
peace and individual sovereignty. Any force that
has the power to mold you into a twisted person
who has lost sight of God within.

Money is just a tool of this False Authority. And when
it is in the wrong hands, it can be used like a gun to
kill people, enslave nations, and influence or coarse
otherwise good people into doing evil deeds.

The greatest truth is unknowable to the human mind, fortunately there is truth we can understand. One such truth is that we are eternal spiritual beings in a very limited physical body and our time here is but a blip in the totality of our existence. Think of it like a cab ride. If you rent a cab to go to the movies, are you that cab? Or are you just traveling in the cab, for a temporary period of time, to get you to your next destination?

For the most part the highest teachers (highest not meaning better than anyone, only those who deliver less colored or ego influenced truth) of spiritual truth will always speak plainly in a manner anyone of average intelligence can understand. The true teachers of truth will never over complicate things or hide the truth in overly complex ideas or shroud it in mystery that is too difficult for the average human to understand. They act only out of love and compassion for their fellow humans and never act in a smug or arrogant manner, though at times this may be difficult to see, based on your current understanding or development.

Truth itself is an ever growing thing. What may appear as truth today may be only partially so in the future to the advancing soul.

I second the responses, I AM and Thyself. Truth and Mystery go hand in hand. Each man is an individualized journey of the infinite. Have at it!

Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by wasaka

 

Mark Twain said that the lack of money is the root of all evil.

This idea holds no water at all. In fact Twain was a drunk.
I point to a world where all men are freely given everything both
needed and desired and all are equal as long as they fulfill their
perspective jobs in contribution to the society without the need of bankers
and upper class period. Imagine the concept. Don't be obtuse.
All based on the solid absolute and undeniable truth that with out money
so goes the love of money and so goes all the evil attached there with in.

edit on 8-7-2013 by randyvs because: (no reason given)

just so happens that ive been developing a template for a system just like that for near 20 years. exactly as you described. i dont see that every day i must say

reply to post by Akragon


One of the greatest minds said:
“I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.”
Can you imagine that over your heads because i cannot and Einstein did way before the cold war.

reply to post by myn4m3

We know mate and no funny or weird # is gonna matter cus we know just like you do and no amount of new age or alien or crazy # matters we know so put it away and deal with it.

reply to post by EPICwhale


I didn't post anything funny, weird, alien or crazy. Maybe a little of what some might call new age, I don't call it that, but I can see where some might try to fit some of what I posted into the category. But then I have the right to post whatever I want, whether you like it or not. Unless my post violates the TOS or goes way off topic, I can post freely here. You know it is possible someone who reads this thread may not be aware of the things I posted about. You can just ignore posts with information that you claim your already aware of. It's not all about you and what you want. There's more going on in the world.

Originally posted by earthling42
reply to post by Itisnowagain

 

Well i cannot speak for others, but i had not known of Lisa if you were not spreading her video's on ATS.
She is a quite handsome woman who earns her money with talks.
Is that just because she is so amazing to hear? or do you think they come and pay for an answer to their question.

I have only just discovered Lisa Cairns - I don't know anything about her - I only know what she speaks resonates.
Lisa asks the question - What are you seeking?
So what question are the seekers actually asking?

How much money does she earn from it? And who knows why anyone would pay for what she speaks? There is no need to pay though - she puts her videos on youtube for anyone to view for free.