World Wide Web Inventor Wants Online Freedom

World Wide Web Inventor Wants Online Freedom

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The founder of the world wide web has called for safeguards to prevent his invention being controlled by governments or large companies.

Sir Tim Berners-Lee's warning came as he and five colleagues were recognised by the Queen for their pioneering work.

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So do any of you ATS'ers actually remember clearly what it was like WITHOUT the internet?

Uber respect for this guy and I completely agree that the world wide web should not be tampered with, it can be beautiful and nasty but it truly is a magnificent invention for all.

Obviously with the approach the government is taking, if the world wide web caves in to the types of controls that are in the pipeline, we are all screwed because it won't stop there if we didn't already know it.


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reply to post by Zcustosmorum

So do any of you ATS'ers actually remember clearly what it was like WITHOUT the internet?

I remember.

Everyone had magazine collections.

Originally posted by boncho
reply to post by Zcustosmorum

So do any of you ATS'ers actually remember clearly what it was like WITHOUT the internet?

 

I remember.

Everyone had magazine collections.

And had real lives where they actually met people face to face.

Originally posted by boncho
reply to post by Zcustosmorum

So do any of you ATS'ers actually remember clearly what it was like WITHOUT the internet?

 

I remember.

Everyone had magazine collections.

I remember now

reply to post by buster2010

And had real lives where they actually met people face to face.

Are you connected to your computer by a chain?

reply to post by Zcustosmorum

Are you connected to your computer by a chain?

I attempted to attend 3 meetings this week, face to face. In each one circumstances arose where no one could make them. So we ended up doing everything via conference or online media platforms.

I'm old now I guess.

Can't buy milk without tweeting about it first these days sadly...

I agree with the founder of the internet. I liked it back in the day. Less polished, but lots of character. But didn't Al Gore invent the internets? And isn't it just a bunch of tubes...

Originally posted by Zcustosmorum


So do any of you ATS'ers actually remember clearly what it was like WITHOUT the internet?

Uber respect for this guy and I completely agree that the internet should not be tampered with, it can be beautiful and nasty but it truly is a magnificent invention for all.

Obviously with the approach the government is taking, if the internet caves in to the types of controls that are in the pipeline, we are all screwed because it won't stop there if we didn't already know it.


news.sky.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

Why are you talking about the internet I thought the article was about the world wide web?

Their work in establishing the internet - a network of interconnected computer systems - and later interlinked web pages accessed via the internet has revolutionised communication.

This is where the article is wrong. Sir Tim Berners-Lee didn't have a thing to do with the creation of the internet.

reply to post by buster2010


Correct me, typo

Internet/World Wide Web, I don't say world wide web very often anymore

Originally posted by Zcustosmorum
reply to post by buster2010

 

Correct me, typo

Internet/World Wide Web, I don't say world wide web very often anymore

edit on 25-6-2013 by Zcustosmorum because: (no reason given)

It's kind of like the difference between online and on the line.

You can put stuff on the line with exchange a gram on the internet, but not the world wide web. Or something like that.

Where's Google when you need it?

reply to post by Zcustosmorum

I certainly remember, those were the days when we had Hobbie's such as Woodwork, Guitar playing, Amateur Radio etc, we had Vinyl LPs plus 45 rpm Music, tape recoreders that iunlike a stupid CD could not be damaged beyond repair. We had VHS systems and not DVD junk, we had a TV that had 4 simple buttons, yet delivered programmes well worth watching. We had local Pub's where beer did not cost £2.00 plus per pint. we laughed, we joked and next day we simply went off to work. They were the so called 'Good Old Days'. We conversed using a telephone and not a costly mobile piece of junk. We wrote nice long letters and sometimes added a few real Photos. Today we print out so called Digital photos and after 80 days or so they start to fade. I have old Photos nearly 100 years old and still in perfect condition. We had Magazines alright, Anyone remember the Exchange & Mart ??? more straight forward then Ebay.

But then I'm a simple old twit, who should sit back in silence and either watch or listen to so called Modern Technology Uuuuuummmmph, well it does give me a more recent reason to Laugh out loud.

Originally posted by boncho
reply to post by Zcustosmorum

So do any of you ATS'ers actually remember clearly what it was like WITHOUT the internet?

 

I remember.

Everyone had magazine collections.

I had a 300 baud modem. The porn was slower, but the chats were about the same

Originally posted by steaming
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I certainly remember, those were the days when we had Hobbie's such as Woodwork, Guitar playing, Amateur Radio etc, we had Vinyl LPs plus 45 rpm Music, tape recoreders that iunlike a stupid CD could not be damaged beyond repair. We had VHS systems and not DVD junk, we had a TV that had 4 simple buttons, yet delivered programmes well worth watching. We had local Pub's where beer did not cost £2.00 plus per pint. we laughed, we joked and next day we simply went off to work. They were the so called 'Good Old Days'. We conversed using a telephone and not a costly mobile piece of junk. We wrote nice long letters and sometimes added a few real Photos. Today we print out so called Digital photos and after 80 days or so they start to fade. I have old Photos nearly 100 years old and still in perfect condition. We had Magazines alright, Anyone remember the Exchange & Mart ??? more straight forward then Ebay.

But then I'm a simple old twit, who should sit back in silence and either watch or listen to so called Modern Technology Uuuuuummmmph, well it does give me a more recent reason to Laugh out loud.

I remember everything you mention and nostalgia is great.

You may not like the modern technology but at least you're laughing about it

reply to post by steaming


PS. We also had Fleet Street plus a full blast mode of Media whose Speech was Free and Realistic, not limited or monitored as it is today.

reply to post by Zcustosmorum

So do any of you ATS'ers actually remember clearly what it was like WITHOUT the internet?

My children (grown now) are probably the last generation of kids to research school papers at the library using the card catalog, reference section, periodicals and a Xerox machine. By the time they were in junior high school and high school those days were nearly over, and by the time they both graduated such skills had become a thing of the past as it was all done via internet. If the internet ever goes black and the students of today are left without Google they will be hopelessly lost.

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Your new avatar's ridiculous, I love it! On topic, you're right. However, I don't really see the net disappearing unless WW3 kicks off and if that happens, I still don't really see the internet shutting down.

Wish I was you guys.. lol. I remember getting on AOL 3.0 as a child, and the rest is history (recorded on the web). I would trade all this digital crap for a -real life- like you guys are reminiscing about. Heck, probably could drop it all from my life, but you can hardly go anywhere these days without people glued to their smart phones. Nobody wants to have a real connection anymore, they wanna be connected over the internet.


I'm sure when I'm your guys' age, my generation will be like... "Hey guys, remember when we were able to get on the Internet without the thought police breathing down your neck? Yeah! You also had to manage when to be offline so your sibling could use the phone. Then when you reconnected you had to listen to this beautiful/horrendous Dial-Up symphony. And Google was rudimentary at best!" yadda yadda

I remember!
If you wanted to know something you has to spend hours in a library Now it takes seconds. That must really worry TPTB

I remember the first connection I ever made. It was a number on the back of an electronics mag I used to get. It took me to a black page with a list of IP numbers. I disconnected and checked my phone bill. £7 It was quite a while before I ever connected again.

Yep. I remember only 3 black and white television stations. NO computers, NO cell phones, NO video games, NO VHS DVDS or cassettes, NO movies at home, no recording such things....NO nothing.

Talk to your friends? Wait for your family phone, or get a quarter and walk to a PAY phone. NO Internet, YouTube, downloads, uploads and NO TEXTING.

There were no such things.

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www.youtube.com...

Here ya gio, one small reminiscent, they were the days when Music made more sense than so called computers. Enjoy May Hopkins also, 'THOSE WERE THE DAYS MY FRIEND

I hope he gets a LOT more publicity.
but I think we have lost the web.

we need a New way to use the web.
that lets us keep ever thing secret.

people should be secret.
Governments should be transparent.....