"This agreement hands the sovereignty of our country over to corporate interests."

Originally posted by shaneslaughta

I know they cant be that stupid.........can they?

S&F

edit on 21-6-2013 by shaneslaughta because: (no reason given)

They know exactly what they are doing. It is WE THE PEOPLE who don't get to know.

Originally posted by wehavenoclue
I must ask the most obvious question, why tell just this guy?

Here is a little info on Alan from his wiki:

In 1991 he founded the law firm Grayson & Kubli, which concentrated on government contract law. He was a lecturer at the George Washington University government contracts program and a frequent speaker on the topic.[9] In the 2000s, he worked as a plaintiffs' attorney specializing in whistleblower fraud cases aimed at Iraq war contractors. One contractor, Custer Battles, employed individuals who were found guilty of making fraudulent statements and submitting fraudulent invoices on two contracts the company had with the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq.[12][13] On behalf of his clients, Grayson filed suit under the False Claims Act and its qui tam provisions.[12] The jury verdict was more than $13 million, which was upheld on appeal in April 2009. The case remains the only successful prosecution of those who profited illegally from the war in Iraq. The Iraq war contractor fraud case brought Grayson his first national attention.[14] In 2006, a Wall Street Journal reporter described Grayson as "waging a one-man war against contractor fraud in Iraq" and as a "fierce critic of the war in Iraq" whose car displayed bumper stickers such as "Bush lied, people died".[15]

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Did you get that? He's a known whistleblower. Why was a whistleblower given this information?

I fail to see exactly how this all fits together, but am certain this was meant to be leaked to the public. There's an agenda to .... incite a revolution in the US

Can someone help me make sense of this?

Probably for exactly that reason - Now the media can spend all it's time discussing Alan Grayson and not the Trade Agreement. Now the media can spend it's time calling Grayson a traitor and not asking why the content is secret when it will affect (effect - help here people) all of us.

He is the only congressman who has even seen this 'document' - We have a right to review (through our representatives this agreement. Why can't all members see it and comment on it before being asked to vote on it?

This is beyond the pale.

Originally posted by fishy6


NAFTA happened under Clinton, not Bush not that it matters because its the plan.

Clinton also repealed the glass stegal act at the end of his administration opening the doors for wallstreet to gut the public mortgage market.

Bush was no better than Clinton but it was really Cheney running the show as we all know.
He had his own agenda and began to seriously erode our constitutional rights after 911.

Now Obama has really stepped up the pace of the program.

And it was Tricky Dicky that started this - TRADE - extravaganza with making nicey, nicey with the Chinese.

Of course Eisenhower tried to warn us - DICKY was his VP - he knew what was going on.

"Gotta love how our elected representatives really look out for us huh?"

You only mention one elected official here, Grayson. So did you mean that you gotta love how our president is looking out for us?

Is any other elected official privy to this info?

For years it seems that our own government is nothing but a whole bunch of whores been pimped by private interest.

Is interesting to see how the shadow government can now hide behind "secrecy" to by pass congress and the American people oversight thanks to the patriot act.

I guess is not surprise now that certain laws are only for the exclusive privilege of those that pay the biggest bid and those are no others than the private interest pimps in the nation.

Is not doubt that is nothing but corruption running in this nation under the name of government.

No wonder the private interest elite is holding the government by the balls and they want to keep taps on every single American in the nation that will pose a danger to their power.

Who say America is free? or democratic? and since when the Republics has stand up against corruption.

Money talks and Bs walk.

Welcome to American people, America officially have to two governments, one that are screwing the nation and the other one is nothing but a Hollywood wannabe bunch of bad actors getting rich from the sale out of the nation to the shadow govenrment.

We were warned about the Fascist Corporate takeover long ago during the Bush administration; but when you pointed it out you were labeled a commie or socialist. And told "America, love it or leave it"

www.populistdaily.com...

What astonishes me is the conservatives hatred toward Obama when in reality he is actually more of a neocon than bush.

The new wars ahead sponsored and fought by the likes of KBR and Halliburton are going to be a republican wet dream. In fact the American military will be told how to fight the future wars by corporate types and not generals or majors.
www.sourcewatch.org...


It's a brave new world....dance monkey dance!!

Time too Aggressively Renegotiate their Trade Franchise

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000 NAFTA and the rest was among the very worst things that man did to this nation in the long term.

I'm not trying to defend Bush, or any other President, but a small correction is in order; NAFTA was signed into law by Bill Clinton, not George W. Bush, Negotiated by Bush 41 (not sure which Bush you were referring to in your reply.)

"i can give you two reasons..." *gives three reasons* anyone else notice?

there's no way in hell they'd let him alone see this unless they wanted it leaked. our country hasn't been sovereign for quite a while, and the U.S. is already a literal corporation.

reply to post by FortAnthem


As I have said a hundred times over, it certainly looks like there was a coup in the USA, possibly even on 9/11.

Your elected are seemingly all (or at least 99% of them) under the control of a cabal of intelligence/military/corporate/banking interests. The NSA working with those corporate "partners" has potentially gathered intelligence on every person of power and could be using that intelligence to control your government.

This is the "NWO" that people have been ranting about. It doesn't need to be some ancient group, some annual meeting or a recognized club. It's the inevitable path of corporate and military without restraint combined. They are supporting each other and it has spiraled into this global conglomerate of ultimate dictatorship.

The only real surprise to me is that people generally didn't understand that this is where we would inevitably end up when you give corporations a door into government. The two should never have mixed. Corporations should always operate outside of government, conforming to rules set out by the citizens.

Instead of being suspicious of all interaction between corporations and government, the American people ignored the fact that there has been a revolving door for decades, that military branches have almost been privatized as a profit making machine, that politicians are now working for these corporations.

What did people expect?

As others have stated on numerous occasions, it certainly appears that TPTB are attempting to prod the American people into a violent revolution scenario.

Of course, many of us want our government back, our Republic--of by and for The People! I had hoped that it could be achieved by the electoral process, but that, too, is corrupt. Unless we go back to paper ballots, hand counted, I don't see a restoration of our country occurring via the election process.

Unfortunately, for some time, I have "felt" (and I mean that literally) that violent revolution is going to happen. It makes me sad, I do not want this, but nonetheless, I feel it will occur and probably soon (like within a decade). I pray I'm wrong.

The revolution winners will be those wishing to restore our country to Constitutional law. They will remember:

Reid vs. Covert - The Constitution supersedes international treaties
Marbury vs. Madison - All laws repugnant to the Constitution are null and void

I also hope that they decide to thoroughly scrutinize exactly how the country got to the brink of toppling and remedy THAT situation so it never occurs again...

reply to post by Ghost375


I have to admit, they have changed history too many times to count, This is an utter lie. Probably from the likes of Soro's he has a reputation that proceeds him for this kind of behaviors in countries.

Whatever is coming to destroy Americans we all deserve it for the lack of interests we have in our government and for the only thing that interests Americans which is alcohol, drugs and entertainment!
It is not them "corporations, intelligence community and politicians" that is destroying us but our own ignorance that will bring us to destitution!
I realize this comment will win me no friends but it is the truth and denial will not change this!
As long as we are hooked on distractions we will fail to create that change which is so necessary for our survival!

I am tired of trying to convince those too arrogant to realize this truth and too old to prepare for what awaits our ignorance! So many of us have tried in vein to awaken our sleeping brethren but has fallen on deaf ears and now with time running out there is nothing to do but prepare ourselves for inevitable demise!
The Whores of Babylon have sold us a dream of success but failed to show us the deed which will only bring us pain!

reply to post by Asktheanimals


The TPP and other trade agreements are the way the New World Order is being implemented. The EU started as a trade agreement and morphed into a full blown takeover of Europe eliminating all government sovereignty.

Any member of congress that helps the traitorous Barack Obama to "ram" this treaty through should have their necks fitted for a noose.

Edward Snowden did not commit treason by telling the public that we are all being spied on. No. Treason is the President of the United States negotiating to put into place devices that will devastate the United States.

The plan will not work and here is why

You see years ago the government could savage the people from behind castles walls and just run raiding parties if anyone kicked up but today all their assets are out in the open, ours for the taking so please don't go burning and looting because you will be burning what is yours and if they want to come to try to take it back then let them try.

it's coming but don't ask me when, I am crap at timing and thought things would kick off years ago.

Originally posted by nosacrificenofreedom
Whatever is coming to destroy Americans we all deserve it for the lack of interests we have in our government and for the only thing that interests Americans which is alcohol, drugs and entertainment!
It is not them "corporations, intelligence community and politicians" that is destroying us but our own ignorance that will bring us to destitution!
I realize this comment will win me no friends but it is the truth and denial will not change this!
As long as we are hooked on distractions we will fail to create that change which is so necessary for our survival!

I am tired of trying to convince those too arrogant to realize this truth and too old to prepare for what awaits our ignorance! So many of us have tried in vein to awaken our sleeping brethren but has fallen on deaf ears and now with time running out there is nothing to do but prepare ourselves for inevitable demise!
The Whores of Babylon have sold us a dream of success but failed to show us the deed which will only bring us pain!

i agree with you my brother

This can't be true because our joke of a president promised us a"transparent"administration!So unless he's LIED about his campaign promise these secret back door deals carried out behind the backs of the people are a betrayal of immense proportions.Keep treating us like stray dogs Washington but beware the inevitable of our massive bite you corrupt,thieving,lying overpaid piles of of SH*t.

Originally posted by Ghost375
reply to post by wehavenoclue

 

yes, when I first started learning about the Federal Reserve, I saw some videos of him talking about the federal reserve. I actually really liked what he said....
but then I kept watching him through the years and he was just not the same.

I think he's just doing it for publicity sake. Because really....after criticizing the federal reserve, why in the hell would the corporations associated with the fed choose him of all people to give this top secret info?

Why show it only to him? Maybe because they know people like you will never believe someone like him when he makes it public knowledge.

Myself. I can believe it. The Illuminati, NWO, UN, Agenda 21. Pick you poison. All coming together to take us to the end.

so what u murricans gonna do?