reply to post by LastStarfighter
I thought everyone came to the consensus that prepping and the bug out bag aren't really going to help you at all if SHTF.
I am not trying to argumentative, I would just like to understand the reasoning behind your statement.
Who is this "everyone" that you speak of? Is this "everyone" that you speak of the people who sit by in denial, thinking that everything is going to
be okay for ever? Would you please explain how preparing and having supplies on hand that are needed to survive in an emergency situation or a SHTF
situation is not going to help anyone?
"Failure to prepare is preparing to fail", this is something that was instilled into me while going through my various survival training courses in
the Navy and is very true.
I do not claim to be an "expert" in survival, however I have been very well trained and that training not only includes my military training but also
my skills as an Eagle Scout and things my father taught all of his children about living off the land while we were growing up. I am however quite
certain that my knowledge and skills in survival would surpass many and I have had to put my skills to the test several times both while in service
and as a civilian.
I agree that is satisfying to shoot yard birds and trap house rodents so you can feel self sufficient though.
I do not do what I do in an attempt to feel self sufficient. My family and I moved to ND from central FL almost 2 years ago for many reasons, the
biggest reason was to get back to basics and be more self sufficient. We bought a quarter of land (40 acres) with an old homestead on it and since
buying the land we have become self sufficient.
Our property is paid for free and clear and we only have to pay a very small tax fee each year which is roughly $500. Since buying the land I have
made several wind turbines out of 24 volt 450 amp Delco alternators and have a battery bank and inverter/switching station and we have been off the
power grid since September of 2012. We heat our home with a wood/coal burning furnace that also heats our water for bathing since the furnace can also
act as a boiler for backup heat.
We grow and raise all of our veggies and meat as well as eggs with the exception of fruits, and supplement our food supplies by hunting and fishing.
Once every 2 months we make the 100 mile round trip to town to the grocery store for items such as condiments and sugar, although we rarely use sugar
since we have a readily available supply of honey.
We smoke and salt cure all of our meats and what wont go in the freezer gets put in the cellar and the same is true of our veggies, we can what won't
stay fresh in the root cellar. We have several cows and sheep that we butcher each year for our meat and last year we got 5 deer and probably 70
pheasant and numerous ducks and geese. We kept track of our grocery store receipts since we went off the power grid in September and as of the first
of May we had spent a total of $738 at the grocery store. Keep in mind this is for a family of 5, there are 7 of us total but my wifes children were
in FL with their dad for part of the winter.
If we absolutely had to, and if left up to me I wouldn't even go to the grocery store but with my wife and kids we go to get certain things we can't
provide off the land or our farm. We get wheat, sunflower seeds, corn, and oats from the farmers around us by trading out work on their equipment in
exchange for the items. We make our own breads from the wheat and oats by grinding them in an antique grinding mill that I purchased at a local
auction for $25 and refurbished and converted to electric.
We also went all winter with no internet and the only television we had was broadcast which was only 3 channels. Now that the freeze is over we had
satellite internet installed and rely on that for watching TV. The point is that I am not trying to feel self sufficient, I am living it. If something
happened tomorrow and I could not work or the entire system were to collapse, other than the possibility of looters, it really wouldn't effect us from
a sustainability stand point because we have our safe local.
I do what I do in an attempt to raise our children in a slower paced life and let them see that there is a different life out there than being glued
to video games or sitting in front of the TV. The things I post in this forum are just ideas I have tried and want to share with others so that some
day if they find themselves in a bad situation they may have some ideas and tools to help them survive. It's also real nice not to have to depend on
another for your basic needs, to me that is the real definition of freedom.
Oh, and I still have a couple of MOLLE packs sitting in the mudroom that are our BoB's so that if we had to bailout from here we could head out to the
prairie and be able to survive.
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