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Originally posted by whatzshaken
If you are a law biding citizen you have nothing to fear because you have nothing to hide.
And when President Barack Obama finally spoke, he effectively shrugged. "What the intelligence community is doing is looking at phone numbers and durations of calls," said Obama, as if that were a mere trifle.
Obama himself put it nicely in 2005, speaking forcefully against the Patriot Act, the very legislation that authorized the secret court orders to the phone companies.
Echoing Frank Church, then-senator Obama told Congress that the U.S. government "has decided to go on a fishing expedition through every personal record, or private document … the phone calls you make, the emails you've sent. This legislation gives no rights to appeal … in a court of law.
"No judge will hear your plea, no jury will hear your case. This is just plain wrong."
Originally posted by spooky24
I still have a problem with the entire 'invasion of privacy' idea. I could care less if the NSA collects my information in the form of Data Mining. Too me it seems like a sideways version of the issue that is so prevalent in today's younger internet users that they have an out blown image of their own importance.
If you ever travel to Europe by the time you arrive back at the nightmare that is JFK airport every single bit of information about your data life will have been stored by the government somewhere. So what! What about your hum drum life makes it so important that it's an invasion of your 'privacy' from an endeavor that you choose freely to go on?
If your 'privacy' is so important then throw away your phone, stay off the internet and don't travel. There problem solved.
Everything has risk involved in today's world and if you freely choose to participate in it then expect the consequences.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Years ago .. when this first started ... 'They' said that the only calls/emails being snooped on were those going overseas to known terrorists and terrorist groups. I thought ... okay. That's fine. But now we find out that has been abused and it's now EVERY email and phone call. My phone calls and emails will bore the heck out of whoever gets stuck snooping them ... and they are totally innocent .... but thats not the point. the point is .. it's a HUGE overstep of authority on the part of the Obama administration and when you combine it with how the Obama administration is targeting reporters and groups that disagree with the administration .. it becomes very frightening!
Main Core is the code name of a database maintained since the 1980s by the federal government of the United States. Main Core contains personal and financial data of millions of U.S. citizens believed to be threats to national security. The data, which comes from the NSA, FBI, CIA, and other sources, is collected and stored without warrants or court orders. The database’s name derives from the fact that it contains “copies of the ‘main core’ or essence of each item of intelligence information on Americans produced by the FBI and the other agencies of the U.S. intelligence community.”
According to a senior government official who served with high-level security clearances in five administrations, “There exists a database of Americans, who, often for the slightest and most trivial reason, are considered unfriendly, and who, in a time of panic, might be incarcerated. The database can identify and locate perceived ‘enemies of the state’ almost instantaneously.”