Former Canadian Defense Minister Paul Hellyer Questions 9/11

Paul Hellyer goes on record with his questions regarding 9/11.

Before the debunkers come in here and start calling him crazy, let me say that I know he also believes in UFO's and to me that means that he is open minded individual and that makes me like him even more.

I searched ATS and found nothing with him talking about 9/11, so here's the interview...

He seems a perfectly sane man.

All good questions.

The problem is though, people ask the questions, they get BS for answers, and nothing happens.

the questions exist independant of the man

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Its really nice when people like this come forward.

Its much more difficult for the establishment operatives to engage in their normal tactics of name calling and personal attacks.

Good on him.

Death bed confessions are what I am waiting for.
Haha, hoping for absolution. The boss made me do it.
Those participated made mad from years of collusions and haunted by those they knowing killed as collateral damage In fact, there are some on this website. Will those real slime shillies please stand up ?

Everytime I turned to some docus about 911 and hearing those sirens from first responders, nothing can describe the poignancy I felt, all those good souls on their way to their deaths, so perfidiously sacrificed for treachery.

Hopefully one day we will see some justice.


SnF

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NORAD was ordered to stand down. That alone is enough.
However his comments as the Minister of Defense and a partner in NORAD (NORAD is for North America, not just the USA) carry weight.

Of course he questions it.

This man has a bunch of books for sale, how would it look if he actually went along with the official story?

Probably not well.

Originally posted by whatsecret
Before the debunkers come in here and start calling him crazy, let me say that I know he also believes in UFO's and to me that means that he is open minded individual and that makes me like him even more.

'Open minded' does not mean 'more credible', or even just 'credible.'

My neighbour worships trees. Clearly he is an open minded individual. But this does not make him more credible than people who do not worship trees.

Originally posted by aboutface
reply to post by mypan

 

NORAD was ordered to stand down. That alone is enough.
However his comments as the Minister of Defense and a partner in NORAD (NORAD is for North America, not just the USA) carry weight.

Do you often give a lot weight to the statements of people who have been completely out of the loop for over 30 years or believe that they have relevant inside knowledge more than 30 years after they left their position?

Hellyer ceased being the Minister of National Defence in 1968, ceased being a member of the Canadian government in 1969, and ceased being a member of parliament in 1974.

Originally posted by Sankari

Originally posted by whatsecret
Before the debunkers come in here and start calling him crazy, let me say that I know he also believes in UFO's and to me that means that he is open minded individual and that makes me like him even more.

'Open minded' does not mean 'more credible', or even just 'credible.'

My neighbour worships trees. Clearly he is an open minded individual. But this does not make him more credible than people who do not worship trees.

What's up with you people and coming into every thread and comparing someone who is asking legitimate questions regarding 9/11 to someone who worships trees?

Who freakin' cares if OP calls the guy in the video open minded. It has NOTHING to do with the video. Yet you'll still cherry-pick at the OP (not what was in the OP) and talk about "my neighbor worships trees!"

And I said "you people" on purpose so now you have a reason to play woe is me about something unrelated to the OP and completely off topic.

I typically don't make these sort of comments but you typically make the sort of comments I mentioned, and it's ridiculous. Don't participate in the discussion if all you can offer is hypothetical tree worshipers.

Originally posted by Hopechest
Of course he questions it.

This man has a bunch of books for sale, how would it look if he actually went along with the official story?

Probably not well.

If he wants to sell books, like you've insinuated, why not run with the official story and then sell some?

Oh, that's right. Because sometimes some people actually care about the truth and have the courage to ask the hard questions.

Do you have a personal problem with people questioning the stories our governments have told us in extreme and tragic events?

Are you only going to call him out for his supposed interest in self-gain, or will you take the time to dispute what he has said with facts and sources?

I don't understand it. Instead of combatting his statements, you just throw in your comment to smear him without even a link.

It's borderline trolling.

This man is very credible and courageous as well for coming out and speaking about the things that he has on numerous occasions.

It's almost comical how the usual suspects automatically dismiss this as the rants of a mad man who is "out of the loop" when in reality he is much more informed on these matters than many would care to admit.

Thank you for bringing this to my attention OP

Originally posted by RomeByFire
What's up with you people and coming into every thread and comparing someone who is asking legitimate questions regarding 9/11 to someone who worships trees?

I didn't. I said being open-minded is not the same as being more credible, I presented tree-worship as an example of open-mindedness, and I said just because my neighbour worships trees, it doesn't mean he's more credible than people who don't.

Do you have a problem with that? If so, why? Do you think people who worship trees aren't open-minded?

I still haven't seen any reason to believe Paul Hellyer is more credible than the people who disagree with him.

Originally posted by Hopechest
Of course he questions it.

This man has a bunch of books for sale, how would it look if he actually went along with the official story?

Probably not well.

Recommend a book he wrote about 9/11...

Originally posted by Sankari

Originally posted by whatsecret
Before the debunkers come in here and start calling him crazy, let me say that I know he also believes in UFO's and to me that means that he is open minded individual and that makes me like him even more.

'Open minded' does not mean 'more credible', or even just 'credible.'

My neighbour worships trees. Clearly he is an open minded individual. But this does not make him more credible than people who do not worship trees.

Why don't you contribute something useful and tell us what makes him not credible?

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Hellyer ceased being the Minister of National Defence in 1968, ceased being a member of the Canadian government in 1969, and ceased being a member of parliament in 1974.

Good to see that he took his brain with him when he left his position in government.

Originally posted by RomeByFire

Originally posted by Sankari

Originally posted by whatsecret
Before the debunkers come in here and start calling him crazy, let me say that I know he also believes in UFO's and to me that means that he is open minded individual and that makes me like him even more.

'Open minded' does not mean 'more credible', or even just 'credible.'

My neighbour worships trees. Clearly he is an open minded individual. But this does not make him more credible than people who do not worship trees.

What's up with you people and coming into every thread and comparing someone who is asking legitimate questions regarding 9/11 to someone who worships trees?

Who freakin' cares if OP calls the guy in the video open minded. It has NOTHING to do with the video. Yet you'll still cherry-pick at the OP (not what was in the OP) and talk about "my neighbor worships trees!"

And I said "you people" on purpose so now you have a reason to play woe is me about something unrelated to the OP and completely off topic.

I typically don't make these sort of comments but you typically make the sort of comments I mentioned, and it's ridiculous. Don't participate in the discussion if all you can offer is hypothetical tree worshipers.

What's up with them is that its their only defense. They can't credibly argue that an office fire can cause three steel skyscrapers to disintigrate into dust and fall straight down into their own footprints, so they instead tell you about their neighbor.

Originally posted by whatsecret
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Hellyer ceased being the Minister of National Defence in 1968, ceased being a member of the Canadian government in 1969, and ceased being a member of parliament in 1974.

Good to see that he took his brain with him when he left his position in government.

You only say that because he is currently saying things that fit with your beliefs.

It annoys me that people constantly refer to him as the Canadian Minister of National Defence when that is a position he hasn't held in over 40 years.

He may have had expert knowledge on the workings of NORAD and NATO, at least politically, in the late '60s but that knowledge is long out of date. Insider knowledge from 40 years ago is of little value today outside of an historical interest.

Originally posted by erwalker

Originally posted by whatsecret
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Hellyer ceased being the Minister of National Defence in 1968, ceased being a member of the Canadian government in 1969, and ceased being a member of parliament in 1974.

Good to see that he took his brain with him when he left his position in government.

You only say that because he is currently saying things that fit with your beliefs.

It annoys me that people constantly refer to him as the Canadian Minister of National Defence when that is a position he hasn't held in over 40 years.

He may have had expert knowledge on the workings of NORAD and NATO, at least politically, in the late '60s but that knowledge is long out of date. Insider knowledge from 40 years ago is of little value today outside of an historical interest.

He is saying what most people are saying. And people call him "Former Canadian Minister of National Defence" which is exactly who he is.

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Most people outside of ATS say nothing of the sort.

Far too many people on ATS who refer to Paul Hellyer omit the fact that he is a FORMER Minister of National Defence, as that significantly lessens the authority of anything he has to say.

The fact that Paul Hellyer may have questions regarding 9/11 carries no more weight than if your local garbage man has questions.