The World:

What I wanted to point out here is this.

All people together, are not the world?
Earth on itself is not the world.

All people together + earth does not yet make 'the world'.

What do you think that lacks these things for us to be able to talk about 'the world'? What inhabitant?

Well, I'll come up with my answer.

There is something unseen. It is not Love. It is what bounds earth with people. That, I see, as "the world".
And since these bounds do not exist without that which is bound, this compound of things make 'The World'.

reply to post by Angle


Right now can you see the 'world'? Or is the 'world' a word that consists of a bunch ideas that have been collected?
'The world' only appears in mind.
This right here and right now is all you will ever know. Make friends with direct experience.

Quote:

"Sometimes I experience the world differently, it is like a whole different world then."

Care to explain.

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"World" is a world and people have different definitions.

Yes, to some people "World" is defined as "Earth"...

to some, "World" means "country" or their specific "culture/society"...

to some, "World" means loved ones ("you are my world)...

Many different definitions... a world is just sounds and language is just a tool to communicate. We learn most definitions of "words" through context rather than absolute definitions - so each person's definition may be a bit different.

This is why when I talk about specific words (love, heaven, God) I usually give MY definition of these words so that I will not be misunderstood (or at least lessen the change of being misunderstood)..

Originally posted by Angle
Quote:

"Sometimes I experience the world differently, it is like a whole different world then."

Care to explain.

Would you care to explain who's quote have you quoted?

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I quoted few and many, itisnowagain. You can go around and ask. What is it? Is it the bounds between us and the world, or the lack of it? But what are we bound with then.? There is a bond.

Originally posted by Angle
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I quoted few and many, itisnowagain. You can go around and ask. What is it? Is it the bounds between us and the world, or the lack of it? But what are we bound with then.? There is a bond.

You are bound to this moment (presence) - forever.
Can you separate yourself from this moment? Is there actually a you and this moment? Is there any bond needed when you are this moment?

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Sincerely, where is the presence located? Is it me who is the presence? Since this presence is everywhere I am, I must carry it with me.

Originally posted by Angle
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Sincerely, where is the presence located? Is it me who is the presence? Since this presence is everywhere I am, I must carry it with me.

There is only presence.
There is the unseen presence and the seen presence.
Presence is nothing and everything.

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The seen presence is not the material world, for the material world is not of the same nature as this presence.

Originally posted by Angle
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The seen presence is not the material world, for the material world is not of the same nature as this presence.

edit on 17-5-2013 by Angle because: (no reason given)

There is no material world.
There is what you can see (presently) and there is what is seeing it (presently) - it is one..

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There is a material world, itisnowagain, and there is the 'spiritual' world. But the material world is nothing when the spiritual is observed. The material is of lesser value. I could even say of no value at all. Very peculiar!

So this spiritual world is light, and light is not material, yet polarised. Magnetic and, like electricity?

Any further comments. I'll ponder further upon the subject too.

Originally posted by Angle
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There is a material world, itisnowagain, and there is the 'spiritual' world. But the material world is nothing when the spiritual is observed. The material is of lesser value. I could even say of no value at all. Very peculiar!

So this spiritual world is light, and light is not material, yet polarised. Magnetic and, like electricity?

Any further comments. I'll ponder further upon the subject too.

The light is here now. The light can only appear presently.
The light makes this image that you are seeing presently.

The thing is can you see what is seeing it?
Can you see the seer?

What do you think the material world is?

reply to post by Itisnowagain


Jesus said: "I am the light of the world."

The bible also says God is Spirit, love and light.


I see you added another question.

I think the material world exists, and this world has got light.

I need to empty my mind now... phew

Originally posted by Angle
reply to post by Itisnowagain

 

Jesus said: "I am the light of the world."

The bible also says God is Spirit, love and light.

That's all I can come up with now.

Ok, so you just go and quote someone and don't follow through with thinking about it.
What do you consider as 'the material world'?

Originally posted by Angle

I need to empty my mind now... phew

The mind is an appearance - it is scenery.
What you are sees the mind.

The seer and the seen are one but what you are is never seen because it is seeing.

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Everything not flesh.

Originally posted by Angle
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Everything not flesh.

Are you saying everything is of the material world except flesh?
What is flesh then?

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We are created in the image of God.

What is flesh different then stone?

Originally posted by Angle
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We are created in the image of God.

What is flesh different then stone?

I don't believe in a 'material world' but you do so............... What do you believe flesh is if you don't think it is of the material world?

When you say 'What is flesh different then flesh?' - do you mean 'How is flesh different from stone?' There is no difference - they are both appearances.
Flesh is seen and stone is seen - both are part of the scenery.
Can you see what is seeing the scenery?