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Originally posted by jonnygemini
Not a mason myself...have been going to a lodge for 6 months and have turned in my app...have heard from several brothers here in SF that some lodges in the South will still not sit with or recognize Prince Hall masons...It seems that Theron is from southern CA so does anyone here have direct experience of masonic relations in the Southern Jurisdiction? I went to school in North Carolina and was pleasantly surprised with Chapel Hill area, but out in rural areas many folks still cling to old ideas about race and religion.
Originally posted by theron dunn
Actually, being as my grand lodge recognizes the MWPHGLOCI, I have been privledged to sit in open lodge with my PH brothers... and their ritual, after two hundred plus years of separation, is VIRTUALLY IDENTICAL to my ritual...
Oh, there ARE differences, which for obvious reasons I won't go into in this forum, but they are SO MINOR as to be nothing. These men could come to my lodge and sit any chair and work with us with no change.
No, the reason the MWPHGLOCI insisted on the demit from one and petition the other AND go through the ritual again was to satisfy self preservation... if a man could simply petition a local (perhaps more convenient lodge). that over time PH would lose its...identity, and become subsumed by the GLOC.
At least, that is what I have been given to understand... and it makes sense, sort of.
Originally posted by The Axeman
Thanks Theron, that does make sense. However, I'm still confused about the position of the Scottish Rite or the York Rite, OES, any other appendant bodies. If the recognition problem is at the Blue Lodge level, then it would (as has been demonstrated here) vary from state to state. The Southern Jurisdiction covers many states. Can a PH Mason join the Scottish Rite, OES or The Shrine? It seems as though it wouldn't matter, because the recognition issue would be between the GL's, am I right?
Originally posted by Rockpuck
I am SERIOUSLY sick and tired of this BS annon posting!!!
Well, Theron's dead. And banned. So he won't be replying. But to reply in his stead, the Shrine voted a few years ago to waive the York/Scottish membership requirement as prerequisite to joining the Shrine. Now you just have to be a Master Mason, 3°.
Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by theron dunn
If that man is not in Scottish Rite or York Rites then he can NOT be a Shriner