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Do Words Hurt?

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posted on May, 26 2015 @ 10:44 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: LesMisanthrope

By my last estimate, words still do not hurt.

It depends on how they are placed in a sentence to form paragraphs/idea forms. Sarcasm, Sardonicism, Satire can be bold innovators for entire changes in political systems; Dickens, Voltaire, Swift, Cervantes as examples.




posted on May, 26 2015 @ 11:58 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: LesMisanthrope

By my last estimate, words still do not hurt.


They do not cause physical trauma.
They can, however cause hurt feelings, depending upon who speaks them and the regard the listeners has (or had) for them at the time they are sent out.

Having the respect of others gives ones words much more force.



posted on May, 27 2015 @ 12:25 PM
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They can, however cause hurt feelings, depending upon who speaks them and the regard the listeners has (or had) for them at the time they are sent out.


If that was so, these "hurt feelings" would occur immediately, even if we misunderstood or didn't quite register what was being said, the intention, or in the manner in which it was spoken. Often, it is only after we have considered them at a lengthy enough time will our feelings become hurt, with our minds filling in the gaps, the what ifs, the "is this really what he thinks", etc. One man's insult is another man's humour. Why wouldn't the words hurt everyone's feelings? Because the cause is not the words, but the individual who confronts them. In a sense, one must decide whether to have hurt feelings or not.



posted on May, 28 2015 @ 01:15 AM
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I think “hurt feelings” DO occur immediately, and give way to acts.
There is more than enough research that shows we have emotional responses in our body before we even consciously become aware of them, and with a little cognitive processing, we can even re-label them, create a different story around them, come up with some way for the conscious mind to proclaim “I did this on purpose, for this logical reasoning…”

It is only after we have considered them for a length of time that we can decide what kind of story we shall spin, how we shall catalogue the event, and even- whether or not we shall choose to acknowledge the emotion that happened.

We can decide it was not rationally, or morally correct, in that post emotion processing, and even deny it happened. But that doesn’t change the fact that it happened. –That the body had a reaction, that was immediately in response to outside stimuli, even without the sacrosanct intellect being in control or even aware in the moment.

(including having just been in a mode of defensiveness faced with numerous opposants, and having accidently made a jab at a supporter)

The intellect claiming it is in control of all the bodies acts and physiological processes, with total independence from others and the exterior (it’s all up to me and how I choose)
Is a false sense of power. THERE is the fantasy entity, the magical powerful invisible man behind the curtain who claims to be pulling all the switches and with power to manipulate all expression and movement of the body… which is reduced to nothing more than a meat suit completely submissive to the “I”.

Yeah, emotions don’t matter and shouldn’t be considered as relevant in human exchange. Each one of us is responsible for choosing every emotion that happens inside in response to others actions and the exterior. Good thing, because the little man in the head has his hands full trying to catch up and pull those switches fast enough to make it look like, “I chose that. For this reason. That’s how all powerful I am”

edit on 28-5-2015 by Bluesma because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 28 2015 @ 02:43 AM
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Our emotions obviously matter. That's why we should learn them. We shouldn't fear them. They are not there to cripple us and injure our future, like the body is to be set against itself as soon as it hears a certain sequence of guttural sounds. They teach us about ourself, not anyone else.

When we teach children words hurt, that their language is a weapon, we arm them rather than equip them, and who would only go out and enforce this mentality. Parents enforce it in their children. And how words are utilized in traumatizing situations reinforces it even deeper. But the fact remains that words reflect the one who speaks them, not who they are spoken to or about. The words, the meaning, the thoughts that they came from, begin and end at the speaker. At some point, the listener generates the meaning, completes the transaction.

You probably know more than anyone that I am very horrible at typing to others. As a disembodied collection of paragraphs, I seem quite prickly. But the settings I typically converse in are more embodied and real, with noise, smells and movement, and a visible bodily vocabulary. I cannot convey when I am being coy, sarcastic, playful; I cannot charm, or joke or mock without coming off as ill-intended; I cannot nudge the arm, caress a hand or smile; and all honor to my vivid imagination, I always imagine we are speaking in perhaps a pub setting, or over a game of chess and coffee, friendly and interacting, a mutual game of wits, probably to my detriment, when I should remember I am just at a computer, and the one I am typing to, the same. It's the curse of being a sensualist in a non-sensual world. It seems one always risks being confused with a disembodied collection of guttural sounds, stacks of paragraphs, or whatever else one's thoughts might leak out as. Though they reflect my thoughts, my true reflection is not seen in them, and the reader can only provide their own reflection in its stead. The magic of words. I suppose I should get used to it.

I can read some sarcasm in your post, but I still picture it coming from a smiling face. Maybe not.

I know exactly what you mean when you say feelings are hurt immediately.



posted on May, 28 2015 @ 03:52 AM
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When I first met my husband, he had come to the US to work for my parents, taking care of my little half brother.

When repimended by him, my brother once said, "You hurt my feelings!"
To which my (now) husband laughed heartedly, and continued to chuckle about for months. He'd never heard the expression, and found it hilarious. I was a bit perplexed at his lack of comprehension, especially since he seemed to be a highly sensitive and empathic being.

With lots of time, I found out that is the concept of emotions as being something separate from the self. For him, and in his culture, one identifies with the emotions- they ARE the self. If my brother had proclaimed, "I feel hurt" he wouldn't have laughed. (though he would have taken it in stride, as if feeling hurt by others is just sometimes a fact of life we cannot avoid, and that is sometimes necessary).

This is a way of perceiving self that has vast implications and influence upon all types of exchanges. It is a paradigm in which irrationality is embraced, as the human condition. They offer and expect no explanation for emotions. They do not hold others responsible for what they feel. You have no choice but to follow what you feel, and blame is useless.

There is another thread I saw titled- "tired of grand theories, do what you want". There is a paradigm in which it is considered, you will (and do) anyway.



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