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Originally posted by WeRpeons
reply to post by upsidedownforklift
The Bush administration purposely fabricated evidence, to bomb Iraq, change it's regime just for the main prize to privatize it's oil. He killed innocent Iraqis and sent many of our young men and women to an early grave. All in the name of big oil. With all the evidence that has come to light, Bush and his cronies are still walking free! Any other government leader and their administration would have been put on trial for war crimes.
It's also a slap in the face of every American, when our own congress refused to press for an investigation into the Bush administration for possible war crimes. Maybe they were afraid of being implemented into charges of war crimes too? Every American should now question any conflict or war we engage in. If our own representatives can't protect us from criminal activities conducted by our own government, who will?
Originally posted by GrantedBail
reply to post by Hopechest
Again. Once again you fail.
Iraq had been devastated by years of sanctions.
They had dick.
It was a smash and grab.
I used to think it was all about oil but now that the Chinese have a bunch of the oil contracts it makes me wonder.
I am starting to think it was all about destabilizing the region. Iraq is a mess. We never did anything to help them rebuild the infrastructure we destroyed.
You need to get down on your freakin knees and beg for forgiveness.
So many lives destroyed. Oh you live over here in your freaking glass cage. You don't know what it is like to live in a war zone.
Originally posted by GrantedBail
reply to post by Hopechest
You probably weren't even born yet but sanctions were implemented in 1990. It had to do with slant drilling and crossing their borders into Kuwait. In fact our CIA darling Saddam, even asked George Bush if it was alright. He gave him a green light and then back stabbed him.
You need to read a book.
Originally posted by poet1b
A decade of Hell?
Try Centuries of hell.
Do you know how brutal of a thug Saddam was? What fiends his sons were?
While the motives of the GW admin were not pure, people shouldn't bury the truth about how brutal and cruel Saddam and his sons were. And Saddam was not a CIA puppet, he spent some time working for the CIA, but that does not make the CIA responsible for everything evil the man did.
Exactly how much oil are we getting from Iraq? You might be surprised.
Before the 2003 invasion, Iraq's domestic oil industry was fully nationalized and closed to Western oil companies. A decade of war later, it is largely privatized and utterly dominated by foreign firms. Antonia Juhasz From ExxonMobil and Chevron to BP and Shell, the West's largest oil companies have set up shop in Iraq. So have a slew of American oil service companies, including Halliburton, the Texas-based firm Dick Cheney ran before becoming George W. Bush's running mate in 2000. The war is the one and only reason for this long sought and newly acquired access. Full coverage: The Iraq War, 10 years on Oil was not the only goal of the Iraq War, but it was certainly the central one, as top U.S. military and political figures have attested to in the years following the invasion. "Of course it's about oil; we can't really deny that," said Gen. John Abizaid, former head of U.S. Central Command and Military Operations in Iraq, in 2007. Former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan agreed, writing in his memoir, "I am saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil." Then-Sen. and now Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said the same in 2007: "People say we're not fighting for oil. Of course we are."
And if that was our purpose why not invade a country that has more? Iraq is one of the lowest producers in the region of oil, especially compared to Saudi Arabia or Iran.
And Bush was going off of faulty information but it was looked at by the Congress and other nations and believed to be reliable so how do you blame him for making it up?
On Sept. 18, 2002, CIA director George Tenet briefed President Bush in the Oval Office on top-secret intelligence that Saddam Hussein did not have weapons of mass destruction, according to two former senior CIA officers. Bush dismissed as worthless this information from the Iraqi foreign minister, a member of Saddam’s inner circle, although it turned out to be accurate in every detail. Tenet never brought it up again.
On April 23, 2006, CBS’s “60 Minutes” interviewed Tyler Drumheller, the former CIA chief of clandestine operations for Europe, who disclosed that the agency had received documentary intelligence from Naji Sabri, Saddam’s foreign minister, that Saddam did not have WMD. “We continued to validate him the whole way through,” said Drumheller. “The policy was set. The war in Iraq was coming, and they were looking for intelligence to fit into the policy, to justify the policy.”
And people forget that he did use chemical weapons and invade 2 other nearby countries while subjecting his people to all sorts of horrendous crimes.
I agree, the invasion of Iraq was mostly about the oil, and Cheney's association with the oil industry was criminal, but I think Iraq is better off without Saddam.
Today, however, Iraq’s Shiite Prime Minister, Nouri al-Maliki, heads what looks more like an authoritarian regime, propped up by a coercive secret service.
Toby Dodge, an analyst at U.K.-based think tank Chatham House, claimed Iraq had morphed into a pro-Iran police state, where Sunni gunmen and al Qaeda’s suicide bombers seem to strike at will, killing hundreds each week.
His conclusion: 10 years after regime change in Iraq, little has changed.