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Originally posted by tetra50
Originally posted by 123143
The tech exists and is in use. I am a victim of it. My life was destroyed by it.
What is needed is a support group.
Perhaps because of distance and scheduling, we could treat this thread in that way. It is what I hoped for. Please, if you feel safe, share your story with us. I guanantee to be the "compassion guard," in terms of responses.
Originally posted by tetra50
reply to post by 123143
You, sir/madam, are exactly the kind of person, with such experiences I wished to reach in this thread. However, I am presently in the middle of a job. I will return as soon as possible, and review your post in detail, and respond. Thanks so much, in advance, for sharing your story here. Please check back soon, if possible, as I will be back to give you my full attention and replly to you.
until then,
Tetra
Whenever the brain wants to retain something, it relies on just a handful of chemicals. Even more startling, an equally small family of compounds could turn out to be a universal eraser of history, a pill that we could take whenever we wanted to forget anything.
Originally posted by 123143
I think it's foolishness to play games with pills to forget. While bad memories are bad they're intermingled with necessary memories.
I would like to forget what is happening to me but I don't want what few good memories there are to be erased.
I don't know why false memories are being discussed. They have nothing to do with the thread topic. Are you implying I've imagined what is happening to me?
Originally posted by 123143
Originally posted by tetra50
Originally posted by 123143
The tech exists and is in use. I am a victim of it. My life was destroyed by it.
What is needed is a support group.
Perhaps because of distance and scheduling, we could treat this thread in that way. It is what I hoped for. Please, if you feel safe, share your story with us. I guanantee to be the "compassion guard," in terms of responses.
My former employer, government, targets me. I have an implant in my throat, which was placed while I was sedated.
I lost all my friends and my job. My family disowned me because I broke the neighbor's window. It was an accident.
The tactics used are electronic and include sleep deprivation and emotional/verbal abuse. I lost 50 pounds in two months. They activate my smoke alarms and jerk my arms and legs to startle me out of sleep.
While I was hospitalized they entered my house via my dormer. I found an "accidental" photo on my cell phone, so I assume they cloned it.
They talk to me telling me the fact that I can prove nothing is very satisfying.
I completely broke down, crying almost all day, every day for two years.
Now and then the e-harassment is shut off and the ringing in my ears stops. When they do that they always want me to break the law in some way. They say they want me imprisoned or committed. I refuse and the e-harassment resumes and my ears begin ringing again.
There are other things but they were such personal violations I can't talk about them here.
I have a real need for a serious support group.
We are all absolutely defenseless against this. It is moral bankruptcy at its worst.
The hardest thing about this harassment is that you see suicide as the only escape. I tried four times.
Any entity that drives people to this extreme should be severely punished. EXECUTED.
I am in year six of this harassment. I am a TI because I threatened to expose the abuses of my employer. My credibility has been destroyed, which is their MO.
I will answer serious questions.
I lost all my friends and my job. My family disowned me because I broke the neighbor's window.
There are other things but they were such personal violations I can't talk about them here.
I have a real need for a serious support group.
We are all absolutely defenseless against this.
Removing memories was one of the goals of the MK program.
The best support gorup around is Freedom From Covert Harassment and Surveillance they are the biggest support/activist of there kind here is the link..........
www.freedomfchs.com...
Originally posted by TheConstruKctionofLight
reply to post by Bluesma
Actually, a pretty significant percentage of child sexual abuse and incest cases are not real- they are false memories. (there are many psychological mechanisms that cause this) But
Any have statistics to prove this? How were these statistics collected and what methodology was used?
from wiki
en.wikipedia.org...
"False memory syndrome is defined as:
[A] condition in which a person's identity and interpersonal relationships are centered around a memory of traumatic experience which is objectively false but in which the person strongly believes. Note that the syndrome is not characterized by false memories as such. We all have memories that are inaccurate. Rather, the syndrome may be diagnosed when the memory is so deeply ingrained that it orients the individual's entire personality and lifestyle, in turn disrupting all sorts of other adaptive behavior...False Memory Syndrome is especially destructive because the person assiduously avoids confrontation with any evidence that might challenge the memory. Thus it takes on a life of its own, encapsulated and resistant to correction. The person may become so focused on memory that he or she may be effectively distracted from coping with the real problems in his or her life.[12] Emphasis in original
The concept of FMS has proven controversial,[13][14] and the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders does not include it. Paul R. McHugh, member of the FMSF, stated that the term was not adopted into the fourth version of the manual due to the pertinent committee being headed by believers in recovered memory.[2]"
Note the above
was not adopted into the fourth version of the manual due to the pertinent committee being headed by believers in recovered memory.[2]"
So we have a group of "professionals" who fall into the categories of beleivers as opposed to unbeleivers...
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When it comes to the victim, it doesn't matter whether it really happened or not. Real or imagined, it has the SAME effects in the long term. The same psychologcial damage, blockages, fears, defenses, etc.
True
One of the things a mental healthcare professional learns to do is suspend judgement and simply be receptive. That is actually very hard for many people to do. Sometimes it is what we need most though. Something my shrink parents explained to me long ago and that stuck in my head was that
True. But and just as a thought experiment let us consider.
A "psych" has a vested interest. Do you think all psychs come from a neutral position. What if a large enough group of victims pointed to something grand akin to an agenda or the simple evil sexual gratification of perpetrators in "high places" preying. An evil so horrible that the mind of the common man shuts down and doesnt know how to deal with the idea of a hidden group of those in power "feeding"
Would not a psych be employed to first of all come up with the idea of " a false memory " as a subjective label, then label the victim as such, and then "offer treatment" You see how the victim is further ensnared by the perpetrator.
Now when I see "professional learn to do" in the above all it tells me is that a professional is one who belongs to an organiztion/beleif system that adheres to a doctrine of consensus thinking. They have studied, got the qualifications and the letters after their name but at the end of the day they belong to a mindset that deals with the subjective mind in ways that "doesnt rock the boat" or bring "disrepute" to their professional body.
Ah, I don't know. When I had strange experiences, I went to a shrink. I didn't ask strangers on the internet to help me. There are times when real human contact and presence is preferable to a computer screen.
And a shrink at first is not a stranger? One cannot ignore the benefit of face to face contact for help. But doing own research and canvassing a wide range of views cannot hurt and in fact may bring a wider perspective Remember that the minute you walk into a psychiatrists room you are labelled "patient"
I was "diagnosed". The harassment drives you into the "desired" psychological state.
Recovery of my reputation is now impossible, which I believe is the goal.
edit on 4/14/13 by 123143 because: Clarification