Nuclear Physicist confirm on Main Stream Media: Aliens worked with US Military!

reply to post by intelligenthoodlum33

I fail to understand the logic that anyone who likes money is a fraud. Wouldn't that make everyone a fraud?

Money is a motivator , the wilder the claims the more money it can generate in book deals and speaking tours something Steve Greer learned many years ago .
I don't have a problem with people making money , I do have a problem with people making exaggerated or deceptive claims to do so .

Originally posted by gortex
reply to post by intelligenthoodlum33

 

I fail to understand the logic that anyone who likes money is a fraud. Wouldn't that make everyone a fraud?

Money is a motivator , the wilder the claims the more money it can generate in book deals and speaking tours something Steve Greer learned many years ago .
I don't have a problem with people making money , I do have a problem with people making exaggerated or deceptive claims to do so .

Sounds reasonable. However, what leads you to believe that his claims ae exaggerated or deceptive?

reply to post by intelligenthoodlum33

what leads you to believe that his claims ae exaggerated or deceptive?

There are several but one that should set alarm bells ringing is in the OP video he says he was a weather observer and was given clearance to go anywhere in Dreamland as long as he was alone .... Really

The fact that he's trying to make some money selling a book and doing the speaking thing doesn't make me disbelieve his story. However, don't take anyone's claim at "face value", the trick is to examine the claim as objective as possible. If something in the story doesn't add up, that's usually a good indicator there's more going on.

I do find it hard to believe that as an Airman, he would be the only person "authorized" to work directly with a certain race of ET's. The US Military usually has teams working on projects, they rarely just "authorize" one Serviceman or Servicewoman to do a job. From what I've read about Dreamland, (from official FOIA released documents), everyone that worked at or around Groom Lake, did so in teams. They did this because a few accidents out there, in addition to costing good men their lives, almost ruined several projects that actually benefited the Nation quite a bit. So it seems unlikely this gentleman would be the only person working first hand with the ETs. If someone's putting themselves in a heroic (I'm the only one who knows the truth) role, be careful, it might be more fiction than fact.

I'd be more inclined to believe Col. Corso's story. He claimed he was just one man, working in a small team, doing his job.

But sometimes truth is stranger than fiction.

reply to post by gortex


I have to go along with your point .
" Go anywhere as long as you are alone " would certainly give credence to him having no eyewitness testimony to back up his claim , but in the same respect , that statement could have been made after bad advice from his publicist . So who knows ???

Originally posted by elouina
reply to post by SpearMint

 

I guess it is up to the individual to make up their own mind as to what is true or not. And your response has actually made me lean more towards believing him. I think I will look into this even further tomorrow. Thanx!

I've met aliens.

I'm writing a book, if you want I can sell you a cheap copy. It's really interesting.

-- now will you believe me? or does my reputation precede me?

Originally posted by intelligenthoodlum33
Sounds reasonable. However, what leads you to believe that his claims ae exaggerated or deceptive?

Umm, well if you really think aliens were going to the casino during their down time while here on earth..

not much we can do about it.

The point I was trying to make in my last post is that people who have something to promote , usually have to go through a publicist . People in the UK will be familiar with the " Max Clifford " type of person .
Their job is to get the most out of what a person has to promote , so it is not unusual for them to get their clients to " Embellish " their experience to achieve maximum publicity.
This is always worth baring in mind in situations such as this .

You would think that the millitary would not let just anyone work with these aliens, right? He would have at least had a pHD. So that would make him about 30 years old. He is saying this happened in the 60s, so 50 years ago. He would need to be at least 80 if not more. He doesnt look 80 to me.

one question [ for those who bel;ieve ] :

why do you believe this guy ? any credible evidence - or you just want it too be true ?????

appologies - i have not actually watched the vids [ i have no sound on this comp ] - so a proper response will have to wait till later

Originally posted by ManFromEurope
*wheees in delight*

Look what I found about Charles Hall.

There are Tall Whites going to the shows at Cesars Palace - could somebody over there just take some pictures?
And look, you can buy his book, too!

I love those scams! Someday, I will write such a story, too.. "My days in MK Ultra and how I learned to love our reptilian Overlords!" - I will place it in the stories-forum but it will be super-completely credible, because of all those facts I will scatter over it. Facts I learned from other scammers that is, of course.

Conspiracies, you amaze me every day anew.

Don't forget to make a website too! One where you need to be a "prime member" (aka: paying) to get access to the "secret documents".

Originally posted by ignorant_ape
one question [ for those who bel;ieve ] :

why do you believe this guy ? any credible evidence - or you just want it too be true ?????

appologies - i have not actually watched the vids [ i have no sound on this comp ] - so a proper response will have to wait till later

Why would somebody offer an opinion on a subject before reviewing all the facts ???

Originally posted by SNAFU211


I do find it hard to believe that as an Airman, he would be the only person "authorized" to work directly with a certain race of ET's. The US Military usually has teams working on projects, they rarely just "authorize" one Serviceman or Servicewoman to do a job. From what I've read about Dreamland, (from official FOIA released documents), everyone that worked at or around Groom Lake, did so in teams.

I'd be more inclined to believe Col. Corso's story. He claimed he was just one man, working in a small team, doing his job.

But sometimes truth is stranger than fiction.

Another non-plausibility of those claims is that those people then (prime example: Lazar) make statements and write books with ASTONISHING in-depth details which they could not even have gotten by simply "happen to come across" an UFO or aliens in a secret base.

As is my understanding, Lazar always claimed to have been a contractor at the base, or like that airman or whoever...but then all of a sudden have incredible "insight knowledge" about Alien culture, their planets, society, all details how their tech works etc., what their intentions are ad so fort. It is extremely unlikely that they got all this in-depth information even IF we assume that they happened by chance to see something they were not supposed to see.

As for Corso...I always considered him "legitimate" as a person, but his book and claims not so much. I remember reading this book long ago, about the stupid theories how ICs, lasers, etc. would all be "alien technology" which is entirely bunk in my opinion.

reply to post by Gideon70


i have not - re-read my response - and attempt to understand it

Well Lazar got called out pretty early when he lied about his education, and where he went to school. But your right,its interesting that people who've claimed to only "worked" on a project suddenly have in depth cultural notes and understanding of these different races. Even if your have Top Secret or Q clearance, your still only told what you need to know to accomplish the mission or the project. Heck, the pilots who flew stealth resonance planes weren't even told what the targets were or what was on the pictures they took. They were only given coordinates.

I'm with you this former Airman is making claims similar to Bob Lazar, so his story should already be taken with a large grain of salt.

Originally posted by ignorant_ape
reply to post by Gideon70

 

i have not - re-read my response - and attempt to understand it

I understood your response perfectly , thank you .
Again , why would you offer an opinion before reviewing all the facts ? Your response was a swipe at people who choose to believe something at face value .
At least they bother to review all the evidence .

pics or it didn't happen.. I think he is full of BS.

Originally posted by DarknStormy
pics or it didn't happen.. I think he is full of BS.

A rather childish response from you , wouldn't you agree ?
Since when are military personnel free to roam bases with a camera ?

Personally I find this kind of subject fascinating and even if there is only a grain of truth in the guys story , it warrants further research and adult debating .

Originally posted by PlanetXisHERE
I don't think this ex-Canadian Defense Minister ever had a book, and yet here he is talking about aliens in public, which starts at about 1:30 in:

Think again.

Light at the End of the Tunnel: A Survival Plan for the Human Species

First, the book claims that exotic energy sources already exist. They have been developed by the U.S. "shadow government" at the massive underground "black operation" installations in Nevada and Arizona using technology borrowed from visitors from other planets.

There is absolutely no harm in believing any story at face value , as long as you also take into account that it is human nature to exaggerate events.
Also you have to take into account the time scale involved here . The guys story took place over or around 40 years ago . Now if you have spent that amount of time touring , promoting and adding the odd little embellishment here and there , then you will undoubtedly implant false memories in your subconscious . Hell , I bet the guy could even pass a polygraph test now .

I'm not saying I don't believe the guy and I'm not mocking people who choose to believe his story . I am saying that there are always other factors to take into account .