The Democracy is for People Amendment

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posted on Mar, 27 2013 @ 08:02 AM
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Constitutional Amendment:




Section I. Whereas the right to vote in public elections belongs only to natural persons
as citizens of the United States, so shall the ability to make contributions and
expenditures to influence the outcomes of public elections belong only to natural
persons in accordance with this Article.


www.sanders.senate.gov...

Text of actual amendment:

www.sanders.senate.gov...





The bill is a reaction to the 2010 Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission decision, in which the Supreme Court ruled 5-4 that the government cannot put limits on election advertisements funded by corporations, unions or other groups. Democrats have charged that the decision essentially treats corporations as people who can enjoy First Amendment rights.


"Make no mistake, the Citizens United ruling has radically changed the nature of our democracy, further tilting the balance of power toward the rich and the powerful at a time when already the wealthiest people in this country have never had it so good," Sanders said.

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Not a word of this in the Media - it's a couple of weeks old. It will never get anywhere, but one dreams.

Introduced into the Senate by Bernier Sanders and the House by Ted Deutch. Haven't the time to look up any co-sponsers.




posted on Mar, 27 2013 @ 08:17 AM
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The word "Democracy" doesn't belong in an amendment to the Constitution... we are a Republic, and the Constitution guarantees us a "Republican form of Government"



posted on Mar, 27 2013 @ 08:46 AM
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Originally posted by OptimusSubprime
The word "Democracy" doesn't belong in an amendment to the Constitution... we are a Republic, and the Constitution guarantees us a "Republican form of Government"


Thank YOU for saying that! A democracy is the LAST thing the United States of America wants to become I like it as a the Republic it is meant to be. Just wondering where any of these people come from, who insist on trying to change our republic into a democracy by making people THINK they are the same. Or are these people somehow THAT uneducated about political science and still work in the field?
edit on 27-3-2013 by Opportunia because: Clarification
edit on 27-3-2013 by Opportunia because: more clarification...heh
edit on 27-3-2013 by Opportunia because: grammar



posted on Mar, 27 2013 @ 08:50 AM
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Originally posted by OptimusSubprime
The word "Democracy" doesn't belong in an amendment to the Constitution... we are a Republic, and the Constitution guarantees us a "Republican form of Government"


My first reaction also. I wanted to reach out and put my hand over Bernie's mouth until he came to his senses. Try a different tack, Bernie....



posted on Mar, 27 2013 @ 08:59 AM
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An old saying, but so true.

A democracy is three wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.



posted on Mar, 27 2013 @ 09:12 AM
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The bill does NOT mention "Democracy" People really should read it before posting knee jerk reactions.



Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to expressly exclude for-profit corporations from the rights given to natural persons by the Constitution of the United States, prohibit corporate spending in all elections, and affirm the authority of Congress and the States to regulate corporations and to regulate and set limits on all election contributions and expenditures.


S.J.Res. 33

It won't pass. They all love their legalized bribery.



posted on Mar, 27 2013 @ 11:05 AM
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regardless of what the bill says, which was written by a self proclaimed socialist, democrats must destroy all capitalism, at all costs. even if it means destroying the first amendment.
it's not about corporations, it's about destruction.
and corporations are in the way of that destruction.

i just want to point out how well Democracy works.

look at california.
they had a ballot referendum to amend the constitution to either ban gay marriage or make it all the way legal.
a democratic vote.
they voted to ban gay marriage.

then all the gays and lesbians are all pissed off because the mob voted against their will.
so then they decide to sue, but the state of california won't even defend the states' position in court.
the state won't defend the will of the people.

thats democracy.

any democrats here want to live under a system like that?
only if it suits your will right?

p.s.
i'am for civil unions under the law, weather you call it marriage or not.
makes no difference to me. do what you want.



posted on Mar, 27 2013 @ 11:16 AM
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Originally posted by Opportunia

Originally posted by OptimusSubprime
The word "Democracy" doesn't belong in an amendment to the Constitution... we are a Republic, and the Constitution guarantees us a "Republican form of Government"


Thank YOU for saying that! A democracy is the LAST thing the United States of America wants to become I like it as a the Republic it is meant to be. Just wondering where any of these people come from, who insist on trying to change our republic into a democracy by making people THINK they are the same. Or are these people somehow THAT uneducated about political science and still work in the field?
edit on 27-3-2013 by Opportunia because: Clarification
edit on 27-3-2013 by Opportunia because: more clarification...heh
edit on 27-3-2013 by Opportunia because: grammar


The vast majority of people advocating "Democracy" have no idea what that really means. Democracy is great, until the majority disagrees with YOU



posted on Mar, 27 2013 @ 12:19 PM
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The bill is a reaction to the 2010 Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission decision, in which the Supreme Court ruled 5-4 that the government cannot put limits on election advertisements funded by corporations, unions or other groups. Democrats have charged that the decision essentially treats corporations as people who can enjoy First Amendment rights.



Democrats like Sanders like to portray the CU ruling only benefited corporations which is not true and the bold clearly spells out.

Democrats by their funding from unions get to spend cash like anyone else it's all smoke and mirrors to stack the deck in the Democratic favor.



posted on Mar, 27 2013 @ 12:29 PM
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Sanders is an Independent.



posted on Mar, 27 2013 @ 12:31 PM
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Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by neo96
 


Sanders is an Independent.


Yeah right an "independent" who likes to take union money

www.opensecrets.org...



posted on Mar, 27 2013 @ 12:47 PM
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For-profit
corporations, nonprofit corporations, unions, trade associations, and any other private entity
without the right to vote would be unable to spend money from their general treasuries. The
amendment makes clear that only natural persons may make contributions and
expenditures to influence the outcome of elections in accordance with the laws set by
Congress and the States.


sanders.senate.gov



posted on Mar, 27 2013 @ 12:50 PM
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reply to post by OptimusSubprime
 


Yes, we are a Constitutional Republic but our electoral process is Democratic.



posted on Mar, 27 2013 @ 01:01 PM
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Sanders says a lot of thing like this:

www.sanders.senate.gov...

LOL wow:

Section II


Nothing in this constitution shall be construed to restrict the power of congress, and the States to protect integrity, and fairness of the electoral process,limit the corrupting influence of private wealth in public elections.............


Nothing in this constitution shall be construed to restrict the power of congress



posted on Mar, 27 2013 @ 01:12 PM
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Bernie Sanders supports term limits.
Bill Moyers



posted on Mar, 27 2013 @ 01:17 PM
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Originally posted by Kali74
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Bernie Sanders supports term limits.
Bill Moyers



Bill welcomes to his studio Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders, who’s been an independent in Congress for 21 years — longer than anyone in American history.


No he doesn't think they need a law for it?

Anyone who believed in term limits would have stepped down long ago.
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posted on Mar, 27 2013 @ 01:25 PM
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He spent 8 terms as a US Representative which is the suggested term limit for those supporting term limits, and he is now serving his second term as a US Senator.



posted on Mar, 27 2013 @ 01:28 PM
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Originally posted by Kali74
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He spent 8 terms as a US Representative which is the suggested term limit for those supporting term limits, and he is now serving his second term as a US Senator.


A career politician someone who has a made it a lifetime commitment of screwing people over.

Over 2 decades in Washington doesn't matter what job it is.
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posted on Mar, 27 2013 @ 01:32 PM
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reply to post by neo96
 


Has he screwed people over though? And are you suggesting we place limits on how many bodies of government you can run for election for?



posted on Mar, 27 2013 @ 01:34 PM
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Originally posted by Kali74
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Has he screwed people over though? And are you suggesting we place limits on how many bodies of government you can run for election for?


If a person was not corrupt a law is not needed laws are for people who have no soiutions and who only want to grow their own power.


Don't recall ever saying "make a law that a person can only run for one body".
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