Warning UN NASA britain preparing imminent danger of solar flares CME solar activity

reply to post by Hitman47


We got lovely auroras, they hit Earth often, it's the size and power of them that vary greatly.

I personally look forward to a big one hitting, there is no real harm to us, and if they shut the power off for a little bit so there is no damage to systems, great!!! Maybe once in my 33 years I might get to look at the universe as it really is without a horrid orange glow hampering my view!

Originally posted by woogleuk
reply to post by Hitman47

 

We got lovely auroras, they hit Earth often, it's the size and power of them that vary greatly.

I personally look forward to a big one hitting, there is no real harm to us, and if they shut the power off for a little bit so there is no damage to systems, great!!! Maybe once in my 33 years I might get to look at the universe as it really is without a horrid orange glow hampering my view!

yeah i mean the big one.

is it really no harm on us?

reply to post by Hitman47


Unless you happen to be taking a space walk at the time.....no.

The sun isn't powerful enough to send anything harmful to life our way, at least until it gets towards the end of its life in a few billion years time......

EDIT: I suppose the best proof of this is the very fact that life on Earth has evolved over the past few billion years, if the sun was even capable of killing life on a mass scale, I doubt we would have evolved to be here now.

they are blaming the blackouts in South Korea on the north, could it be possible that it is due to solar activity

Originally posted by MerkabaTribeEntity
Hey all, hows things?

Originally posted by maryhinge
WHY have they not found a way to harvest this energy ?

is it even possible?

I think this is possible.
You might remember the 'infamous' UFO (read 'small particles out of focus') footage shot from Nasa STS-75 of the release of the 'Tether'.
The Tether was a 20km long 'antenna', for want of a better word.
If memory serves me well, one of the Tether's jobs was to try and harvest power from the charged outer edges of our atmosphere, the Ionosphere. (?)
I believe that they were actually registering an electrical current before the Tether broke away and floated off into space, which proves the theory that this kind of energy can be harvested.
I hope this helps!
All the best

edit on 28/12/12 by MerkabaTribeEntity because: Clarity

It sure does
sorry to be off topic but do you think they were particles or ufos

have these particles been seen before or after the tether event

imho i think ufos of a earthly origin

Originally posted by ollncasino
reply to post by karam

 

I believe there is a plan to switch of the national power grid to prevent extensive damage.

Britain: Gov’t Prepared to Invoke Emergency Powers, Turn Off Power Grid to Shield Country From the ‘Biggest Solar Flare in 150 Years’

There is also an international agreement to switch off power grids in the event of a solar flare coordinated from the USA I believe. I will try to find a link.

edit on 18-3-2013 by ollncasino because: (no reason given)

That will not be necessary. We have switched to Plan B.

- Shield the Earth from our sun -

A large biosphere space station will be positioned between the Earth and our sun.

We decided to just pass on the whole Doomsday Scenario.

- See Pleiadra Biosphere -

reply to post by superman2012


How do you properly shield a elctronic?

reply to post by woogleuk


We are indeed bombarded by the sun continually and occasionally get a boost of barged particles and a wave of magnetic flux in the form of a flare or CME. And our atmosphere fends off the worst of the onslaught, making conditions around the surface ideal for many forms of life.

The problem arises when a flare of sufficient size and elctormafnetic strength comes our way. See m previous post regarding the Carrington Event. Here are a few snippets of information:

Many telegraph lines across North America were rendered inoperable on the night of August 28 as the first of two successive solar storms struck. E.W. Culgan, a telegraph manager in Pittsburgh, reported that the resulting currents flowing through the wires were so powerful that platinum contacts were in danger of melting and “streams of fire” were pouring forth from the circuits.

A Perfect Solar Superstorm: The 1859 Carrington Event

We wouldn't be affected too much directly, but our technology would be in sever jeopardy and that wold not be a good thing at all.




ETA:

Not to say that something of the sort is happening or about to happen. We would have a few days notice before anything hit, but if it were a strong enough eruption that hit us just right, I don't think there's anything we could do.

Transmission lines could be replaced, but the transformers would prove problematic due to the 18-36 month lead time for one unit.

reply to post by supergravity
Are you amplifying the signals with a simple cicuit like a 386 Op-AMP into headphones or how are you "hearing" them?

I was wondering if you are actually tuning in to the Schumann (resonance) frequency of the earth (~7.8hz now, I think) but if you are hearing rumblings at VLF then you may be on to something more as I would think the other is a rather steady state. You may have a poor ground on the cap or measuring circuit/feed to audio amp. How is is it grounded? Can/did you attach it to the 8-10ft copper ground near your electrical service entrance? Do both the capacitor and the measuring/output circuits connect to a single ground point?
Are your hands free and clear of the circuit when you are measuring? This is importance because the human body can introduce a mix of capacitance and RF into a circuit, like if you ever touch the line level inouts on your stereo amplifier and you hear that awful hum (~100hz)

I have a house up north of Seattle and another out here in the twin cities area where I am responding from. I don't have all of my electronics workshop here from the other house yet but I do have my Tek 2246A scope and plenty of wire, a handful of chips and things and two clothesline poles about 25' apart and 6' off the ground, perfect for making a few hundred feet of detection coil.... I just might clear some snow out of there and set something up in the next day or so. Then post some results.

reply to post by Casualboy100
put it in a metal box, a farady cage of sorts. Works even better if the box is grounded. Large metal gun safe with ground wire should work just fine. Microwave oven (don't turn it on ) when plugged in to aproperly grounded 3-wire outlet should work and you can warp item in tin foil prior to putting them i if needed.

Plenty of ways to shield from stray currents, effectiveness really depends on the coverage of your container, grounding should work better as it can sink(pull current from) large disturbances.

You can always research emf shielding techniques and farady cages on google for more inspiration.

Hope that helps.

reply to post by jadedANDcynical


The thing is though, a flare would never cause that, a CME might have enough power to damage electrical systems, but not a flare on its own. (1859 was CME for example, not a flare).

It is highly unlikely it would affect consumers goods (so no point sticking your ipods/pads or computers hard drives in microwaves folks, they will be ok), however power and communications would be down, so once the batteries die........no more music for you......well you could always get the 6 string out.

reply to post by woogleuk


Yeah, there is a difference between a flare and a CME, I know it's a general misuse of the two terms interchangeably.

Semantics aside, and it would have to be a larger event than the one in 1859, were such an event to occur, you'd loose the transmission lines and a few key transformers and substations = the grid is toast.

We've only been observing the sun for a mere fraction of i'ts existence and though we've learned a lot, especially in recent times thanks to the advance of technology, there is still a lot the sun can do that we don't understand.

We loose the ability to transmit and control the flow of electricity and we are in bad shape.

And I wonder if anyone here knows what's worse that would follow...

Wrabbit I bet could guess, but I'd be surprised if anyone else thought of it.

reply to post by jadedANDcynical


If event such as Carrington event happens we are good as early man I have doubt that gov has alien tech to control these kind of events

reply to post by karam


There will be measures in place to protect power grids, it wont be as bad as some people make out.

The biggest issue would be loss of communications via satellite......not sure if they have a protective mode against such events.

reply to post by woogleuk


Do you happen to remember this report?

Physical Vulnerability
Disruption in the supply of electric power can result from problems in any part of the system, including some transmission lines where the destruction of a small number of towers could bring down many kilometers of line. The large high-voltage transformers are particularly vulnerable to attack both from within and from outside the substation where they are located. These transformers are custom-built, very large, and difficult to move. Large transformers are no longer made in the United States, and the delivery time for new ones can run to months or years. The industry has made some progress toward building an inventory of spares, but these efforts could be overwhelmed by a large attack.

emphasis mine

Replace "attack" with "massive CME" and the effect is the same.

And again, it would have to be one for the record books, but it is within the realm of possibility for such a thing to happen n

But it's like worrying about the ELE sized rock out there we don't yet know about that's got out name on it.

Possible yes, just not very probable.

reply to post by evc1shop


Thanks for responding,The 100 yard wire was shunted with a 2200 uf cap and the ground was at the oscope.
I recorded this on audio tape to speed it up into the human hearing range.
The sounds were not steady frequencies but sudden loud canons going off at random.
I also picked up strange SINGLE sawtooth positive pulses and negative ones ,these were not SINE WAVES just the top half and sometimes just the bottom half ,and the length of them were variable.These sawtooth PULSES WERE NOT NATURAL BUT MAN MADE.
The other sounds of cannons I believe were earth or sun formed,I contacted a geologist in Colorado and he thought they were from the liquid core moving .
And no I was not touching any part of the circuit,I have a degree in electronics so I do know what your saying.

reply to post by supergravity
Hmm, was the sawtooth part of a sine with a lot of slew?, this coudl happen if the Oscope was measuring an amplified signal and the preamp stage had a lot of slew for a partcular frequency. Like the output on a cascoded FET amp. ^__^__ ... Perhaps you picked up signals from a spark induction but if it was truly the earth's core or mantle doing a little jig, I can see the peaks being of the piezo-electric type, perhaps from the pressurization or bending of crystalline material (Quartz, Mica ) and other materials. Certainly some intersting goings-on out there. If you feel like posting a sample clip of the audio, I would love to hear it.

If you have a DSO and can capture an image that woudl be sweet too. I might try a few models with SPICE here and see what I ca think of.

reply to post by evc1shop


The saw tooth pulses had very long slew rates and as I stated I live in VERY remote area and do not think it was local.If I had to guess I would say it was the submarine transmitter in Ohio.
The other sounds of cannons were very spooky and made the hair stand up on my neck.I did all of this about a year ago and will look for my tape.
And no the sawtooth were not part of a sine wave ,and even more the UNAMPLIFIED signal was 250 millivolts , in radio terms that is EXTREMLY POWERFUL if it was global.

reply to post by jadedANDcynical


I'm afraid I don't, never seen it before, looks American though given the DHS references.......I'm merely a little northern Brit.

It takes a CME between 2 - 9 days to reach the Earth depending on speed, as they are monitoring all the time, they will most likely see the big one if it happens.

Even 2 days is enough to get all local power companies to mobilise the troops and disconnect the transformers before it hits.

In my opinion anyway.......seems doable.

reply to post by supergravity
No worries with the audio clips. I think I will try to make some of my own observations here based on what you have already stated. I'm looking forward to seeing what is "out my own back door"

I am in a suburb of the twin cities right now so there may be some background noise (stray RF) to account for but this should be interesting.