Originally posted by kozmo
In NYC they can also arrest you for having a soft drink that is too large, listening to your iPod turned up too loud, smoking anywhere, eating food
with trans-fat, standing around (also known as "Waiting"), being a tax-driver suspected of transporting a prostitute, being homeless, etc... They
are also the great city that introduced stop-and-frisk laws that allow the police to violate your 4th Amendment rights without cause. They've also
seen fit to gut the 2nd Amendment as well.
NYC is a cesspool!
bit of an exaggeration there.
the soft drink nonsense is limiting the size of drinks that can be sold. you want to buy a 2 liter bottle and chug it, nobody will arrest you.
Please show me the law that states that wearing headphones with music playing too loud can get you arrested or even a ticket.
you can smoke everywhere, other than public parks and, if the police do act on it, you get a fine, not arrested. That being said, I walk home every
day thru times square which is a designated "park" and people are smoking all over the place, talking to cops while smoking etc. Never once have I
seen a ticket being written. More important, real parks, like Central Park, Madison Square etc are, in theory, going to have fewer butts lying on the
ground as a result of this but, still, the cops aren't arresting anyone for it. Tickets, maybe. Arresting, never.
Eating foods with transfats is a crime? Sellling food with trans-fats might be something they want to crack down on but, honestly, do you think the
police have the ability to determine what has trans-fats in food? No. They don't and they don't arrest anyone for eating whatever they want.
Standing around does not get you arrested. People do it all the time. If you are standing around in an area known for a high volume of drug vendors
or prostitutes, you might be questioned but, honestly, if you aren't selling drugs or yourself (or looking to buy), why would you stand around in an
area known for these kinds of crimes?
Transporting prositutes is a crime, if you know you are doing it and willingly participate in the flesh trade. A driver who is hired to take person
from point a to point b is not going to be arrested unless he isn't really a tax driver and, instead, is being hired out as a driver for the purpose
of transporting prostitutes to and from their johns.
Being homeless - they're all over the place and they are, usually, left alone unless it is brutally cold or the homeless person is creating trouble
for people. I will remind you that we recently had a story in the news about a cop who saw a shoeless homeless man on the street on a sub zero night.
The cop went and purchased shoes for the man. He didn't arrest the guy. He helped him because, believe it or not, cops do good things from time to
Stop and frisk laws can, at times, be a necessary evil. The real issue here is that it goes hand in hand with racial profiling. It's a horrible
thing for anyone to be suspected of something bad simply because they fit a profile but there have been cases where one community that was racially
profiled, upon seeing another group suffering the same fate, has admitted the rationale behind it. Years ago there was a rash of car jackings near
miami international airport. Some one or some people were car jacking tourists on the ramps leading to and from the airport. There were several
murders and plenty of thefts. The police started stopping anyone that fit the description of the perpetrators, as told by the victims. Young black
men were targeted at checkpoints and, rightfully, the community was unhappy with it. Activists rushed to the area to protest this unfair practice.
The story was big enough that 60 minutes did a piece on it. The crimes decreased and the story vanished from the press. Several years later, 9/11
happened and, suddenly, arab men were being targeted at airports for additional searches. People were reporting every tiny oddity they saw and men
were being asked to take different flights, simply for looking like they were from the middle east. 60 minutes did a story about the racial profiling
and they went back and interviewed many of the african american men and women who had appeared in their racial profiling story years earlier. Each
one had the same reaction - the arab looking men should be under a microscope and, yes, we understand now why racial profiling is done. It isn't
right but it happens everywhere. NYC is not alone in this and, honestly, I would venture a guess that, post 9/11, there was more racial profiling
outside of NYC than anywhere else and that profiling resulted in more additional searches to innocent men.
The gun laws are a poor reaction to a horrible event that occurred in our backyard.