posted on Feb, 28 2013 @ 05:34 PM
reply to post by Treacherous
Originally posted by Treacherous
reply to post by jcutler12888
Wow good question, I'd like to answer this in more detail when I get a moment. My immediate response is that the majority if not all disorders are
essentially a defence mechanism. So if we say that we are essentially primitive beings. We are simply adhering to natural instincts. Namely, fight,
flight, fold or cold war. Did I make the last one up? Anyway you get the idea, if a beast is too big we flee to take stock. Our fleeing maybe
permanent ie: anti social within today's society... The beasts are either extinct or in a zoo. Or we may recoup, reframe and come back with a
stronger attitude. Similar to nartistic injury, devalue, repression and then a retaking of the world or beast.
This is a really quick reply off the top of my head. I'm at work lol. Will think on this because breaking it down in this way is really useful for my
next research endeavour. Identifying the positives from these so called disorders to create some kind of superhuman blueprint. Maybe best not to ask
at this point. Brb x
I'm so glad that you answered me.
Take as much time as you want to research each disorder and come up with an answer for each...believe
me, researching them and learning about them is actually pretty fun. I, too, think that our behaviors are patterns of defense mechanisms...but when it
comes to personality disorders, people hear the name (like the commonly used terms "narcissistic" and "antisocial") and don't know the true
definition of the disorder and base their hypotheses on the definitions of the words and not the disorders themselves. (Cold war...I like it, thanks
for making it up
For example, you said antisocial could be a permanent fleeing within today's society, leading me to believe you're basing your hypothesis on the
commonly used definition of antisocial ("Oh, she never leaves her house or wants to see anybody...she's so antisocial") instead of the clinical
definition of antisocial personality disorder, which has been called the criminal's personality disorder in that people who have it are usually quite
sociable and charming but they refuse to adhere to society's standards (I.e. anti-social) and often break societal norms by doing things such as
committing crimes. People with antisocial personality disorder, by clinical definition, are not people who have taken flight from society as a defense
mechanism, they are pretty sociable and charming people who are unable to keep themselves from breaking the rules over and over and over again,
keeping them at odds with society. The same thing goes for narcissistic personality disorder...people seem to think that it has something to do with
our usual usage of the word narcissistic ("God, he's so full of himself and thinks he's better than everyone...he's so narcissistic") when
narcissistic personality disorder has a full and separate definition that differs from the definition of the word narcissistic.
i REALLY think you're onto something about personality disorders versus our natural states...but I think that once you research the personality
disorders and see the clinical definitions, you'll be convinced that seeds of these "disorders" (which have only been identified and called such
for about a century) lay within us all and it's all just a matter of to what extent which seed takes root and grows in us to alter ourselves from our
natural states and paths. Once you look at all up and read all about it (and really, it can be some mind-blowing stuff...I love psychiatritry and
psychology, this is one of my long time favorite areas of study), you're going to be amazed...and I think you're going to be able to write out
probably a SERIES of threads addressing each of these clusters of personality disorders and how some of us come around to be such distorted versions
of our true selves.
I can't wait to hear back from you,
I'm really excited about this thread and this idea, I'm so glad you started it and I can't wait to talk to
you about it more!