Taking into account the latest scandal within the Vatican itself (pls see other threads use search), I now think that only a major cardinal with necessary backing and experience in that, and without any personal involvement in the scandals is capable of leading the Church. Perhaps there are many who are not involved in the scandals, or who have had the experience of managing local church in crisis. However there is needed something more to be a pope, to be Peter the Second.

Prophecy plays out too. Fatima is not fulfilled. If that continues, Russia sooner than later will annihilate USA within 5 minutes of the push the button. American cardinal, especially cardinal Dolan, could make the things different. With powerful influence and fast consecration of Russia as requested in Fatima he will bring the Era of Peace on Earth. On the other hand, he is enough respected to reign within clerical circles and to kick off anyone who has sinned and who has covered sinners. The church does not need those people! The church needs someone like Dolan to do it for the sake of all of us - both catholics and other Christians. There are many other issues:

1. married priests
2. communion to divorced
3. active social programs for the poor, both in the developed West and in the Third World.
4...

While those qualities could be applied to many worthy cardinals, I don't think many have the strength to do it right now, in the next and may be last scandal of the Vatican. I believe and pray that cardinal Dolan finds that strength from above, to speak loudly Now, to not allow the bureaucrats to take over again, and ultimately to fulfill the mission of the last holy pope on Earth. Whether he will meet Jesus in the Second Coming passing thru the Great Trib first, or we are hundreds of years from that time, only God knows. What is our task is to do what is right today.

You answered yourself, ''we need to do what is right.''

I'm quite sure holding another human in any sort of regard is not correct, especially in consideration of God, who the church is suppose to represent, but they don't, they're a self serving organization. So I'm curious why you think it matters?

Why do you care about who the face is of some corrupted self serving godless organization? People that have a true relationship with God are not concerned about organized religion, in fact, they view organized religion as what it is, a man made organization with a man made nature.

Are you promoting idolatry? I'm confused. What is it you think a pope or archangel or whatever is going to do for the people?

May i ask why anyone thinks these men spoke to god?
the new one will be no different then the past popes as
they are chosen by the same type of committee every
time, over long periods of time things have changed but
as its only been 8 years so the selection style will be similar.

It will all simply be more of the same with a different
sounding voice.

Cardinal Dolan is an American. The Church will not elect an American pope. Not while America is a superpower. America is in decline .. so perhaps a hundred years from now it could happen. But definately not now.

Originally posted by FlyersFan
Cardinal Dolan is an American. The Church will not elect an American pope. Not while America is a superpower. America is in decline .. so perhaps a hundred years from now it could happen. But definately not now.

24, 000 posts and this person is supposedly considering the nature of a church beacon?

Where do these people come from and which pop up book are they getting their knowledge from?

The argument that the pope must not be from a superpower, loses ground with the nightmare discovery in the Vatican. Still we need more data from that 300 page report of three honorable and aged cardinals. I don't care if the next pope will be called Dolan or not. I care the work to be done. because what we see is the Harlot Babylon that now is revealed to the world. Let it be wrong. But I am afraid it is not. And the harlot wants to promote further its proteges for the next pope. May God forbid her!

I will repeat, only draconian actions within itself will make the ROMAN church back on track. Otherwise, it will cease, I mean the ROMAN component of it. I do not make cheap tricks to promote American cardinal. Hell it was that! As I look at the cardinals who look to me like old ladies, it indeed needs someone masculine strength to clean the gay mess inside!

The schism is apparent and imminent if no one from the sacred college of cardinals acts more masculine than a hollywood gay!

I wasn't wearing my specs when I first saw the thread title, I read it as 'Carole Dolan pope'. I nearly choked on my cuppa until I put my specs on.

My name is Carole Dolan lol.

Note To Self: Must remember to never trust my eyes without specs.

it is strange how the respected posters avoid the question of Fatima consecration. That was a key moment why I defined card. Dolan as possible successor of Peter in this uneasy moment.
Because USA is likely to be the first target of Russia, whenever that all sequence starts. We are already off by 13 years, according to the unreleased 3rd secret, hidden by Ratzinger, Sodano and Bertone.
My suggestion is that an American cardinal will have the best interest to include the consecration of Russia in his first priority as pope.

That is even more important than cleaning up the gay clique in Rome. Because we are speaking of a 100% proved apparition, of changed message, of evidence from politics more than enough, and of the danger all of us, both catholics and non catholics, to die in th ehell fire of the nukes. The pope and the bishops have the power to stop it. They didn't do that repeatedly for some 90+ years.

Some lady told me in another thread that Bayside wasn't approved. Fatima is! Well bayside NY apparition says: consecrate Russia or you will die!

We are in a do or die situation with these elections.

Why not write your candidate and why you think he is matching the prophecy, the conspiration and so on? Or you are not paid to do so?

If no cardinal is fit to do that consecration, to clear the mess of sexual filt, and to do the other steps that I mentioned regarding
married priests, divorced couples, etc etc
Then I am afraid a foreign power will do it instead. I.e. Russian or Arab invasion under any pretext. The prophecies say so. In another thread someone isted a dozen of them. Sorry I cannot spend all my time jumping from thread to thread and answering questions not included in the original thread. I put quite clear questions.

If married priests are alowed the sexual abuse will drop dramatically. And so on. But someone must do it. And that someone currently does not reside between the walls of the Vatican. Otherwise he would have done it long ago.

Originally posted by 2012newstart
If no cardinal is fit to do that consecration, to clear the mess of sexual filt, and to do the other steps that I mentioned regarding
married priests, divorced couples, etc etc
Then I am afraid a foreign power will do it instead. I.e. Russian or Arab invasion under any pretext. The prophecies say so. In another thread someone isted a dozen of them. Sorry I cannot spend all my time jumping from thread to thread and answering questions not included in the original thread. I put quite clear questions.

If married priests are alowed the sexual abuse will drop dramatically. And so on. But someone must do it. And that someone currently does not reside between the walls of the Vatican. Otherwise he would have done it long ago.

Can I see a link to that thread, or a title so I can locate it. I am interrested in this fatima prophecy hidden regarding Russia and 5 minute destruction of the USA. There are a lot of threads regarding fatima and I want to get to the nuts and bolts.

Thanks,

God Bless,

Originally posted by FlyersFan
Cardinal Dolan is an American. The Church will not elect an American pope. Not while America is a superpower. America is in decline .. so perhaps a hundred years from now it could happen. But definately not now.

I thought we all agreed it was supposed to be Cardinal Bertone, the man who swears to tell the truth about the 3rd secret of Fatima. But you never can be 100 percent on any subject. Ill take the 3-1 odds though, were can I place the bet.

Originally posted by Speckle

Originally posted by FlyersFan
Cardinal Dolan is an American. The Church will not elect an American pope. Not while America is a superpower. America is in decline .. so perhaps a hundred years from now it could happen. But definately not now.

I thought we all agreed it was supposed to be Cardinal Bertone, the man who swears to tell the truth about the 3rd secret of Fatima. But you never can be 100 percent on any subject. Ill take the 3-1 odds though, were can I place the bet.

I hear this for a first time about Cardinal Bertone. That would definitely change the things about him. Everyone can convert. But I guess, to be elected pope after the mess within the Vatican, he should announce much more loudly to the world what exactly he will do DIFFERENTLY from the previous two popes. Because he served under both Benedict and JPII as secretary of card Ratzinger. It is good to hear that though.

For the 5 minute danger for America, it might be even 2-minute danger of annihilation, should Russia have orbital nukes. That is banned by a treaty, but I guess the treaty is long overdue and trespassed. The issue was raised in 2008 by Russian generals who proposed stationing of strategic bombers in Cuba and orbital nukes as answer to the American anti ballistic missiles in Europe. Sec of state Rice said that (Cuba) would trespass a red line. The bombers were not stationed officially. But later in 2012 Putin was quoted ONLY by Pravda.ru that there is already new missile in Cube. As of the space weapons, we can only guess how advanced both superpowers are. The media leaked for example that the Russian ICBM are tipped with scramjet reentry vehicle delivering the warhead. Notice the Russian subs are equipped with real ICBM unlike the American. Bulava is just sea based Topol. That makes each single sub the possible starter of WW3 even from distance as far as the North Pole. They tested missiles from the North Pole (see youtube). A Russian general chief of missile forces at that time, said they have 120 seconds responce time should USA attacks first. That happened at the time when a US and Soviet "defunct" satellite collided over Siberia. The Soviet satellite was "nuclear powered". I bet it was nuclear armed as well. 120 seconds responce time is not within the human capabilities, i.e. electronics is involved, probably connected to space based weapons. For comparison, the entire MAD doctrine is based ona 15 minutes trigger alert of both isdes/ I.e. if the Russians shoot with ICBM from Russian territory, there are some 25 minutes and USA will have enough time to fire their own ICBM in less than 15 min. So both sides will be equally destroyed. MAD served well to avoid WW3 at that time. Now it is dead with the invention of new tech that could react in seconds. If the command is given to robots then? Hope not. But you understand that in 2-3 minutes without prewarning very little could be done before destruction comes. The most scenarios envision first EMP attack on continental USA followed by precise strikes on silos, submarine bases, airfields, other key infrastructure. After that, it is expected US president (if alive) will surrender, having ultimatum to avoid the certain destruction of US cities should any retaliation is attempted. Youc an see the youtube vid First Strike. it is outdated but the principles are the same. It is as horrific as it could be, and we really cannot imagine the full scale of devastation when we speak in numbers only. None of us have survived a nuclear war to know how it were. Will USA strike first then? I think- not. But the Russian leaders think-yes, and prepare for preemptive strike. USA is not listen in even one single prophecy as the aggressor. Russia is. The heaven gave the key to the popes, and they didn't use it until now. Perhaps the next one will. I want to see the Era of Peace promised in Fatima, that may include far not only a technical peace as we have after the Cold War but a new era of devotion and prosperity for the humanity.

I thought to copy/paste the Newes Europa text in parts, but you could really find it online. It is not official - it is a PART of the hidden secret, still not all but a good portion of it. Sorry I see the characters limit comes to end this post.

I want to answer someone who asked for the other threads I wrote in. He/she should click only my profile and ther eare links. Sorry I don't have hours for all of that. Every post that I post may be my last one due to circumstances, so I write it as if it is the last one. Thank you for reading!

Cardinal Bertone knows Fatima secret and swears to announce them? Let he announce them in the Interregnum! Let he do it today! This will be his best argument to be elected pope. Not because will satisfy curiosity. But because will convince the catholic world represented by the cardinal-electors that he will do the things differently and that he is capable of changing course. And of course we don't know yet what is inside the secrets. Neues Europa is part of it.

I see I haven't received a single flag, so I quit writing in this particular thread. Thank you for reading! Hopefully some of the data I gave will be hepful for someone. If not necessarily for the posters, then for some outside readers.

Not sure why you are reading so much into my Bertone for pope post, thought all that stuff was well known. Then you go into something about Russia. Russia has alot to do with the 2nd secret of Fatima. And so does this meteorite. Just for fun , what if the meteor was actually a secret US test weapon and the Russians hit a bullseye on it. Or maybe It was a weapon test by the Russians and the US shot it down. By it is kinda wierd you started to ramble on about Russia because of Fatima. Theres a flag for you, now u can come back on/

Now with the 3 votes failed to produce new pope, we may think of other candidatures than the frontrunners Sherer (support from Curia, conservatives) and Scola (liberal EU +US). Of course the pope could emerge several hours later and could be one of the two. Seems to me the vote splits 50/50.

A third possibility that is different from both Latin American and European, is apparently to choose someone from North America. I cannot prophecy a name, but cardinal Dolan appears the natural leader of the US team. Of course anyone of them could be elected instead of Dolan.

I think the catholic church needs a strong leader with his vision to change things and not so much a prayer warrior or devote friar. I hope he would consecrate Russia anyway, and it will take him less than 30 min ( less than the flight of the ballistic missile).

After the last Italian pope JohnPaul I there were two European popes, Polish and German. Many things have changed since then. The catholic church is in the position it is now partly because of their policies. So I doubt that another European will make the things differently. Of course I might be as wrong. Cardinal Martini would do it differently if he could participate now.

Speckle, sorry if you find my input too active. I just found the threads interesting to put my large views in them (not as large as pope's encyclical).