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Originally posted by Malcher
I already read the link. I dont know the policy regarding the emergency lights or if that would have changed anything.
It looks like you are reading your off site quote wrong. It states he reached speeds of 102 mph, not that he was taking the turn at 102 mph. We already know he lost control of his vehicle. My point is that as long as emergency vehicles respond to emergencies there will be accidents.
I was bringing out some common sense points in my other post, which you ignored.
FHP found the trooper, Detrick McClellan, at fault in the horrific crash, fired him, and cited him with three traffic violations.
Originally posted by LeatherNLace
Originally posted by defcon5
It might still work out that justice is served
For most folks, justice will not be served until the day comes that there is no cover-up. Plain and simple, honest, forthcoming, voluntary testimony would go a long way towards healing the disconnect between what LEO claims to be and what the general public perceives them to be.
but it shows that you cannot trust these departments to conduct investigations on themselves.
It makes you wonder....why does LEO have exclusive rights on internal investigations? Heck, why do they have any rights to internal investigations at all? Should that not be the responsibility of an independent citizen council; void of any LEO influence? We should demand such.
edit on 17-2-2013 by LeatherNLace because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by butcherguy
Originally posted by Malcher
I already read the link. I dont know the policy regarding the emergency lights or if that would have changed anything.
It looks like you are reading your off site quote wrong. It states he reached speeds of 102 mph, not that he was taking the turn at 102 mph. We already know he lost control of his vehicle. My point is that as long as emergency vehicles respond to emergencies there will be accidents.
I was bringing out some common sense points in my other post, which you ignored.
You don't need to be in an emergency vehicle to be in an accident. He should have been using his lights if he was traveling at a 102 MPH, turn involved or not.
His commander was fired and a Sergeant recommended for demotion in the case. Sounds like somebody must have done something wrong, don't you think?
FHP found the trooper, Detrick McClellan, at fault in the horrific crash, fired him, and cited him with three traffic violations.
From the OP link.edit on 18-2-2013 by butcherguy because: (no reason given)
Asking me about someone being fired and demoted is pretty much useless since i dont know all the details.
Originally posted by Malcher
Originally posted by loam
reply to post by Malcher
Right.
Lets ignore that an investiagtion found him responsible and they fired him for it.
And people wonder why justice is so hard to come by...
I understand what you are saying but it is still an accident. If someone is getting murdered then it is ok to drive 100mph? He was responding to a serious call.
Adding: i have no connection with any law enforcement at all.edit on 17-2-2013 by Malcher because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by defcon5
The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.
The state is going to come down on these guys because of the obvious and embarrassing court display that they put on.
Besides firing the officer involved in the crash, they have also fired the Troops commanding officer, and demoted the Sargent, who should have covered the court hearing, to a trooper. Six other officers are under investigation relating the what happened in the courtroom.
It might still work out that justice is served, but it shows that you cannot trust these departments to conduct investigations on themselves.As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.
Originally posted by kozmo
We'll see who is laughing when he finds himself in civil court defending himself from a lawsuit seeking compensatory and punitive damages due to his negligence. He will be an indentured servant to these families for the rest of his miserable life!