I have no inside knowledge about this conspiracy. This is an observation that I felt was worth sharing. Maybe someone here with inside knowledge of the music industry can shed some light.

I am a fan of Alternative Music. It has struck me for some time that a high percentage of "Alternative" Music is actually more "Pop" than what is played on the Pop stations. What I mean by that is that the tunes are catchy, easy to listen to. Get stuck in your head.

I've also noticed over the past few years that an inordinate amount of Alternative Music shows up in commercials as well as on television shows and movies.

Here is where the conspiracy enters in, in my opinion. I believe that the music industry segregates some really great songs that would actually be quite popular into the category of "Alternative" in order to preserve their marketability for major corporations.

Because they don't play on mainstream Pop stations, corporations get to go out and pick these catchy tunes to brand their products with, before the general public has identified the songs with something else.

The "alternative" bands lose out in radio play, but gain in corporate endorsement licensing fees.

I feel that radio play today is more controlled even than it was during the scandals of the 50s. I believe that true popular choice is dead, and that by and large consumers are told what is popular, while certain really good tunes are virtually suppressed for corporate benefit.

Obviously, sometimes these tunes break free from their commercial attachments and become hits on their own. Many others, though, can never shake the stigma of being seen as a jingle. Many of the artists, I feel, go along with this because they would rather get some money and be able to keep playing, than be starving artists.

What say ye? Anyone else noticed this or have an opinion on the matter? Or am I the only one ?

I just think companies let hipsters run their marketing departments, and there's an inner competition among marketing firms to be both hip and trendsetting.

BTW, most of those songs in commercials that you speak of are awful. Hipster goofball corporate audio teams, if you're reading this post, stop using "ironically" crappy music in your commercials. Please.

Funny you should say, I just posted in another thread that "music isn't on the radio because it's popular, it's popular because it's on the radio". People do not excercise free will and make choices as much as the believe they do. They follow.

Originally posted by DaTroof
I just think companies let hipsters run their marketing departments, and there's an inner competition among marketing firms to be both hip and trendsetting.

BTW, most of those songs in commercials that you speak of are awful. Hipster goofball corporate audio teams, if you're reading this post, stop using "ironically" crappy music in your commercials. Please.

It depends on who they are targeting. You are not going to hear alternative music in a hoveround commercial. If the target demo listens to alternative, then they are going to be presented with an appealing message that includes their music preference.

Originally posted by AwakeinNM
It depends on who they are targeting. You are not going to hear alternative music in a hoveround commercial

A Hoveround commercial with a Sex Pistols backing track?

What an awesome idea.

I have despised the modern music/radio industry for years because of their lack of variety.
theoretically in a capitalist system different vendors offer differet products and let the customer choose. What I see in today's radio industry is multiple stations in the same market playing the same music. The persons who decide this, I think, are either afraid of stepping out so they go sheeple, or the figure they'll get a guaranteed minimum listening base.
part of the problem is that very little of today's radio is 'live'. chances are you're listening to a computer-generated playlist interspersed with computerized psas, ads, announcements, station ids. if you hear a human voice, chances are it's some guy in Colorado. it's cheaper for stations to buy pre-formatted blocks and canned talk, than pay a living human to be at the mike.
(then there's 'public' broadcasting, aka elitist broadcasting.)
so most markets only have three or four real choices; urban/top40, country, Christian, oldies.
Thank God for internet and satellite radio.
(as I type this I'm listening to 'Faded Seaside Glamor' by The Delays, playing awesome music I've never heard on the radio.)

FM music radio is a dead zone, and of course, like with "conservative" (Republican) AM radio (especially under Bush), and the rest of the 'MSM' (TV) it is completely thouroughly utterly --controlled-- .
I'll bet if I offered to give you a $100 bill if you showed me where radio allowed an anti war song (even the old anti Vietnam songs from 4 and 5 decades ago) I'd wind up keeping my bill forever.
One night though, very late (early am) 1 or 2 am maybe, I heard a DJ --DEIGN-- to play Killing In The Name Of by Rage Against The Machine. One...............night. A long while back.

by 'works4dhs'

Thank God for internet and satellite radio.

YES

I have no idea what "alternative" music is to any specific individual. After being heavily involved with music for a while, it seemed that even areas that were deemed "underground" and "alternative" were just as popular as the "pop" music, which was generally discarded as all being trash because of its popularity (very predictable in a counter-culture).

It is also interesting how incredibly insular the music community is. Most who are fans of specific types of music will think that other types take less skill, less creativity, etc. The truth is that isnt implied by any specific genre, but by the individuals making the music. The genre is the tool, no more no less. It is a lot like blaming guns for shooting people.

I still love how 90% of people claim they listen to "everything except country." Then they start to fumble a bit when you bring up specific music genres. I like a lot of genres, including ones that most people dont even find to be "music" per se, like IDM. I also find dubstep to be kind of the girly incarnation of drum and bass. Again though, that is because of most of the individuals making the music, it isnt implicitly required for the genre.

In the end, its all subjective anyway. It is a struggle, at best, to convince others to accept your opinion as their own unless they already agree.

The corporations follow the music trends and wait for a pattern to emerge when a new genre is created. Once a pattern or formula can be determined, they can mass market sell out bands with Pop like tunes. It is happening now with dub step. It has already happened to the 1990's Alt rock genre (which I think is what you are referring to in the OP) and it has been going on since the music industry first started. They did it to the Folk music in the 60's and later in the late 1970's you got what is called corporate rock. This rock was so formulaic that its genre was named after the corporations that spawned it.

This doesn't mean that formulaic music is bad, its obviously researched and perfected to appeal to as many people as possible. Its just not the place you look for when you are looking for innovation in music. I think this is the appeal of underground music, because these are the innovators who are pushing their respective genres and creating new ones with their techniques.

The internet and the switch to mp3's is probably the best thing ever to happen to the music industry. It effectively released the stranglehold the corporations had on music and allowed innovation to come back to the forefront. I'm sure you've heard your parents or their friends tell you that music was better in their day. That's because technically it was. Record labels were more interested in innovation and new things.

By the way, record labels aren't the only way to make music in this industry anymore. You should look into the live music scene. Bands that tour regularly tour enough (over 100 times a year) that it allows them to keep ticket prices down. They then release a cd every so often which gives them a few sales. Most of them don't even care if you record their concerts. Yet practically none of their music is ever on the radio, unless it is played on some college station,