7 states introduce legislation to require gun owner's insurance

I for one think it's a wonderful idea. Automoble insurance is required to own and use a car (another possible deadly weapon). I think you should have to carry insurance to cover the property damage and injuries that you MAY cause with a firearm.

And for you 'self-reliant', libertarian, pay your own way, types, this is a way to put your money and ideals where your mouth is. You cause damage, you are irresponsible - You pay to clean it up - not us through the State.

Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
Okay. So my broken-headed kid murders me, takes my gun, slaughters some kids in the next town over.

It's all good because my insurance policy (Im dead by the way) will pay out a few bills to the families?

That's the point, right?

Yes, precisely. Because you are responsible for the weapon period.

You want to keep your guns so you can feel like a real (insert your own thang) then be responsible and don't tread on other peoples lives and property (including your children).

I just love this - it shows, oh so clearly, the hypocracy of gun freaks (don't f*** with me or my gun where in I have vested my identy, but I can do what I want to you because I'm special, see I have a big gun or car).

Originally posted by ANNED
in calif its a scam to up date the records for confiscation.

And you know this how? A source, credible, please. Other than the OP, this is all just spewing reactions and pointless - me included.

I love this .... "Don't piss on me, but I'll defend my right to piss on you to the death" ... hilarious ... made my day. I can go to be happy.

Well crap, where am I going to get my knife and baseball insurance? I also want to know who will insure the government for the fast and furious gun running insurance?

This is stupid. We pay enough fear money. NO MORE!

Originally posted by FyreByrd
I for one think it's a wonderful idea. Automoble insurance is required to own and use a car (another possible deadly weapon). I think you should have to carry insurance to cover the property damage and injuries that you MAY cause with a firearm.

And for you 'self-reliant', libertarian, pay your own way, types, this is a way to put your money and ideals where your mouth is. You cause damage, you are irresponsible - You pay to clean it up - not us through the State.

Owning an automobile is not enumerated in the Constitution. Not infringing on gun ownership is. Your talking apples and meteors. If the wobbly, weak kneed, spineless liberals want to submit an amendment to the Constitution to allow infrigement, don't be a pussy, DO IT. Don't be trying cowardly back door chipping away at the 2nd amendment, friggin' weasels. Man-up and put a bill into congress to amend the Constitution.

I said this would happen in another thread a while ago. People did not want to come to the table and talk about gun control. Well now you will have to have a insurance policy.

posted on 23-12-2012 @ 09:43 PM

Originally posted by JBA2848
reply to post by syrinx high priest

 

You could do a forced insurance policy on gun owners. You must have a policy that will cover anybody who might be shot by your gun. Policy will require you to take a test every so many years. If you have bad eye sight to bad you can't use your gun anymore. All the family members in your house have to be covered on your fire arm no matter how old they are and must be cleared for you to have a firearm.

Just think about what the government can force upon you if you do not step forward with a open discussion. You can't play the game the NRA did last year now.

www.theblaze.com...

“Why should I or the NRA go sit down with a group of people that have spent a lifetime trying to destroy the Second Amendment in the United States?” LaPierre rhetorically asked during an interview with the Times Monday. “It shouldn’t be a dialogue about guns; it really should be a dialogue about dangerous people.”

Well this shooting happened in the heart of the assault weapons hub of sales. Hell Cerberus is tied to this town. The NSSF - National Shooting Sports Foundation and all the TV shows they have are tied to this town. And this is the second mass shooting with guns from the same store in this town. There was eight people killed at a beer distribution center by a shooter.

And NSSF answer to the Virginia Tech shooting and taking guns out of the schools? The NSSF started a funding program for students to create gun clubs in the schools for shooting.

edit on 23-12-2012 by JBA2848 because: (no reason given)

Maybe the law should force the greedy insurance companies to add a gun clause to existing policies, at no additional premium to the insured...

SO...let me get this straight. Force gun owners to buy gun insurance. Only the good guys will actually maintain this insurance. So, when the good guys have to shoot a bad guy, the bad guy, (or his family) gets a settlement?

WTF?

Originally posted by FortAnthem

but, it is troubling nonetheless.

Troubling indeed. Hope to see this not come to fruition. Just one more way to enrage law abiding, gun-toting citizens.

reply to post by seagull



I think the plan is exactly what another poster said, Pricing them out of range of most, equals less guns. They're getting desperate and trying anything to institute gun control anyway they can.

reply to post by LFN69

I am 48 years old. I have been around guns so long I can't remember a time when there weren't guns around the house. NO member of my family has ever had an accident with a gun. I haven't had one, my children haven't, wife, mom, dad, uncles, cousins, etc...none. I actually don't even know anyone who has been accidentally shot or that has accidentally shot someone. So, how much do we have to pay? How many 10's of thousands of dollars have we wasted if this had been a law all along? How much richer have we made an already rich insurance company for a useless policy? This is just gun control under another name.

This will serve the same purpose a poll tax served during the reconstruction era...

Or, like Obama care - the law may not allow us to mandate Americans buy a product but we can sure as hell tax them if they don't. You know how the administration argued when it was being passed it wasn't a tax but when it was challenged in court they argued that was exactly what it was.

If the law won't allow a ban or exclusion they will just make it so that no one (or very few) can afford to legally own a firearm.

This is a serious attempt to grasp at straws.

I have to say I expected it though from the libutards who will stop at nothing to see the country sundered and their gun-grab completed at all costs.

Originally posted by FortAnthem


I have no doubt that all of these schemes are also intended as a form of back-door gun registration so that the state can have a list of all gun owners when the time comes for eventual confiscation of civilian firearms. They can always say that its not the state keeping the list but, you can bet that it won't take much to force insurance companies to hand over their client lists when the time comes, if they don't hand them over willingly that is.

Bing bing bingo!

And Mr Jones what sort of weapon would you like to insure? Could we have that serial number? Where did you buy the weapon?

Originally posted by FyreByrd

Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
Okay. So my broken-headed kid murders me, takes my gun, slaughters some kids in the next town over.

It's all good because my insurance policy (Im dead by the way) will pay out a few bills to the families?

That's the point, right?

Yes, precisely. Because you are responsible for the weapon period.

You want to keep your guns so you can feel like a real (insert your own thang) then be responsible and don't tread on other peoples lives and property (including your children).

Most folks would be better off it they got their Johnson insured. More likely to get into trouble with that than a gun.

Originally posted by Donkey_Dean
What better way to gather gun ownership information. I bet a violation will cost your guns, or even your right to own a gun.

Seems like they really want to know just who has em, how many and what kind.

edit on 7-2-2013 by Donkey_Dean because: (no reason given)

This is exactly along the lines of what I was thinking.

One they want to compile a list of gun owners and knowledge of what they have.

Two they are trying to price people out of being able to own a gun.

Three this just a step towards the day they manage to try and take guns away from people. They will know where to go to acquire the information on who owns what.

I do not see this bill passing BTW this is one of the reasons I am a member of the NRA because they will fight this.

reply to post by FortAnthem


What a crock, just another way to punish the law abiding citizen for something that isn't their fault. Our country has ALWAYS had these problems, and nothing ever done by punishing the gun owner has altered this course.

What needs to happen is the damage from Regan being in office needs to be reversed to get things back on track. Reopen all of the mental facilities that he had closed down and get people help with their mental issues. You can't impose a law abiding restriction on a non law abiding citizen, the people commiting these horrible acts need mental help, not a fine.

This should make it easy for the police to catch gang members and criminals.
When they go to buy insurance they can arrest them.
criminals will abide by the law. wont they?
Surely this isnt just another jab at the 99.9% of gun owners that are responsible and cause zero issues.

reply to post by Logarock


That is so funny, and still so true, and you don't seem them forcing mandatory insurance on deadbeat parents. LOL

Originally posted by FyreByrd

Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
Okay. So my broken-headed kid murders me, takes my gun, slaughters some kids in the next town over.

It's all good because my insurance policy (Im dead by the way) will pay out a few bills to the families?

That's the point, right?

Yes, precisely. Because you are responsible for the weapon period.

You want to keep your guns so you can feel like a real (insert your own thang) then be responsible and don't tread on other peoples lives and property (including your children).

I just love this - it shows, oh so clearly, the hypocracy of gun freaks (don't f*** with me or my gun where in I have vested my identy, but I can do what I want to you because I'm special, see I have a big gun or car).

Just because you arent capable of maintaining a weapon in a responsible manner does not mean that others are not.
Just because you are one of the many weasels that want to erode the constitution of this nation down until we are Socialists doesnt mean the rest of us are going to go quietly.

Originally posted by rickymouse
So this legislation may have been pushed by insurance companies? Insurance companies won't pay claims, they just tie everything up in court and make everyone unhappy. Capitalism at it's finest.

No need to insure guns you don't have.