reply to post by Nightaudit
Hello Nightaudit and thank you for two good replies, I starred both of them
"The inca Cola":
This example is getting a little out of hand here but just to humor us we'll give that bottle yet another spin
OK, so the flavor molecules could be identified and turned into a syrup, sure. But the experience thereof, the taste, is up to someone with taste
buds, i.e. a person. Without anyone consuming the substance and evaluating it, it has no real meaning. This is also where this example loses
validity... On its own, the soda is nothing but an object- thus objectively existent. Still
, the experience of tasting it is totally
dependent on who
the taster is; where does he/she hail from, cultural background, preferences, needs, etc.
Haven't you tried cooking some "ordinary" food together with a person of foreign descent, just to know that what you thought "everyone loves" is
considered disgusting? I love eating exotic stuff and I am always up for something new and sometimes I am just perplexed with what people in some
cultures consider good tasting. Even historically; what has been regarded as delicacies 200 years ago would never
be put on our dinner tables
So, the soda might very well be there but that wasn't really what I was after. The flavor
on the other hand does not exist until someone has
an experience connected with it.
The same I guess there is to say about the things I see in this "convergence"; it is happening but some people see it differently depending on
thousands of random factors.
That'll be confusing enough
"Everything exists in reaction to something."
I see what you mean but I am that kind of person that questions everything. What I meant is no easy deal to explain but it has to do with questioning
dichotomies. Instead of building the world out of opposites, I see everything (and everyone) as an reaction to the preferences of its surrounding. Now
we are back to the discussions of the "objective reality" and what that really is.
The only "eternal" part in this elusive and enigmatic "relativity" is energy, and that energy is what I think of as "God".
Please note that this is a looong
story made very short.
Your apology of the "6-year old" remark is granted. It is funny sometimes how you make the posts "speak" in your head sometimes
I "heard" it differently.
"The whole dirty 2012 business"
The "business" around 2012 was, in my view, totally absurd to begin with. Maybe sometime when it was just surfacing I thought it was good to spread
some awareness around it, but as it became to be about some sort of doomsday or anything that ultimately was going to go down on some certain
, I realized that things where getting out of hand and that it all was turning into a very typical
expression for how people and
society handles such an event. In the beginning as I started to hear about it, I might also have been a little carried away by how "grand" it was
going to be. However, the more time progressed, the more I matured into understanding the concept, the less I was thinking about that specific square
in my calendar.
Be it as it may, the date passed (like it mattered in the long run anyway) and people never got their explosions in the sky and decided to debunk,
disregard and discredit something they themselves
made up (the expectations). Of course that may have spawned a lot of disappointments but
those feelings belonged to those who looked at the whole deal in the wrong way. As I stated earlier, that date 122112 was just a marker, symbolic in
every aspect but not decisive.
I think I might be thinking about this "business" much the same way as you do.
Prophets of profit, so speak, is nothing I'd ever "buy into". There are, however some very inspiring people out there with a lot of good to say.
You just have to remember that it is the inner voice that is the most important one. Whatever stuff other people listen or turn to for comfort is not
my business. In that aspect, the universe is truly indifferent
I think, and this is the spiritual side of me speaking, that we create our reality in full extent
. The thing is, we don't even know it so we
just go with "default". Would we unlock the secrets within, it will be like Dark City if you've seen that old classic
Now to your second post;
it is very easy to become "speed blind" as we say where I'm from. And there surely has been many times in history a lot less "active" than what
we have today. This I have learned from studying many aspects of human history, societal development and philosophical progress. The time since the
industrial revolution has been at maximum turbo in so many aspects of life and it keeps getting more intense all the time!
I could give a thousand examples but I am running out of characters right..now