If conspiracy theorists ruled the world

Thought this was a great read, hell it was more fun a read than most novels. What do you think?

I'm still open to the possibility of conspiracy theories but for the most part I've turned off from them. I increasingly find conspiracy theories are being used to push a right wing/libertarian/New Age agenda and it turns me off. Not that what believers in conspiracy theories believe should matter, but also the fact they have spouted predictions for decades that haven't come true.

I've also become more rational and I realize that while there are people who wish to have world domination, they are all pipe dreams and the different elites want different things. If good people can't get along why would diabolical people be able to cooperate?

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I do think there's maybe a 30% chance UFOs are visiting us and I think that while 9/11 was indeed committed by Islamists, the link to Osama Bin Laden is probably not as certain as the media says it is and I do think the government did more or less "let it happen" so that our military could keep some of its Cold War bulk.

Originally posted by lampsalot
Thought this was a great read, hell it was more fun a read than most novels. What do you think?

I'm still open to the possibility of conspiracy theories but for the most part I've turned off from them. I increasingly find conspiracy theories are being used to push a right wing/libertarian/New Age agenda and it turns me off.

Nah, thats just this forum. I lost hope some months ago but every time I look into these boards, another round of

- "DONT TAKE MY GUNS YOU COMMIE!",

- "Obama is a lying African and a communist, too!",

- "UFO-PHOTOS! FULL PROOF!" and

- "I just had this lucid dream.." is going on.



Thank you, ATS, you lost a lot of interest to me and others with this. Maybe not a coincidence? Maybe there is an agenda to flood this board with this boring crap to drown some of the more serious people who really have seen something the world should not know about (in the eyes of TPTB)?

They'd be TPTB

Based off things said on this site, if conspiracy theorists ruled the world most everything would end up illegal. I know there are still a few defending rights, but every time a story containing a freak incident comes out the majority screams Ban [insert anything that can be used improperly as to cause harm].
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ETA:I'm with OP, in that I still believe in a few theories, but for the most part I've hardened my view on them. Boredom and a small handful of good threads (increasingly smaller) keeps me coming back.

If conspiracy theorists ruled the world. All computers would log on to the internet with an ATS start page.... Boom!...

Thank you, ATS, you lost a lot of interest to me and others with this. Maybe not a coincidence? Maybe there is an agenda to flood this board with this boring crap to drown some of the more serious people who really have seen something the world should not know about (in the eyes of TPTB)?

Have you not searched the other forums on ATS? You could go to the science pages and be blown away with hundreds of hours of mind blowing intellectual debate. There is no way you've utilized this site to it's maximum capabilities. expand your mind beyond the conspiracy forums and Alt. News and I dare say you might find subjects that are much more different. Forget that, I don't "dare say", I know this to be a fact..

The only one holding you back is you at this point. Expand your horizons and be blown away..

Ha, good question.

First of all, no one would trust anyone else. Everyone would be armed to the teeth and every neighbourhood would exist as a soverign state with its own laws and citizenship requirements.

Debunking would be the national pastime and the tinfoil hat would become haute couture. In short - Hell

Many thinking people "take what they need and leave the rest." There's no law says you gotta believe in every conspiracy to see that something is very, very wrong....

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Thanks for the post.
But, after reading this from your link:

The problem, of course, is that the conspiracy theories are false, and their adherents’ ideas for changing the world are based on an incorrect and often downright delusional view of reality. That means that their solutions will have very severe unintended consequences, because their solutions aren’t aimed at solving real problems in the real world, but rather solving fake problems that exist only in their fantasy world

......I had to stop. I think that is just a stupid generalization. Anytime someone starts espousing "false", "incorrect", "delusional", "fake" is just a close-minded individual. Sure, not ALL conspiracies are real, but that doesn't mean that some of them aren't and to label anyone who may entertain the possibility of more than one theory on any given subject, shouldn't be labeled as defined above.

That's all I got!!

Peace!! ID

If conspiracy theorists ruled the world,

We'd all be dead in 24 hours or less.

That read was quite amusing. S&F great find.

I agree with above posters, over-generalization.

There are so many examples of conspiracy theories proven fact, that it's idiotic and actually irresponsible to not actively search for the truth on any matter. Whether it relates to government, science, or the mysterious.

The majority of conspiracy theorists I know are just truth seekers. (Albeit, I really don't know many in person, just online.) They want transparency. In government, in what's in our medicine and food. What our governments are up to. We live in a "supposedly" free country. We want to know that we are free through disclosure. There are bad apples in every bunch. You have Christians that are down right diabolical. Liberals who are out right impractical. And conspiracy theorists who are looney tunes. It doesn't mean that every person who is interested in conspiracy theories are crazy or want to live in a Mad Max world. But that seems to be the agenda as of late, as to how the mainstream responds to people who claim an interest in conspiracy theories.

I don't see much change if conspiracy theorists ruled the world. Why? Because they are just people and the term "conspiracy theorists" only does one thing. Defines an interest that person has. It doesn't define the whole person. It doesn't mean they buy into every conspiratorial story out there. Is that conspiracy theorist spiritual? Religious? Right or Left? Vegetarian? Believe in democracy or socialism? Get what I mean? It's just one small part of how that person thinks or views the world. There are dozens if not hundreds of other aspects that affect that person's personality.

People have ALWAYS assigned negative connotations to the term "conspiracy theorist." But after Waco, Colorado, Sandy Hook, and countless other examples, can you really blame them? Like I said, their are bad apples in every bunch, no matter the brand. They spoil the rest for the outsider looking in. It's to be expected.

I believe it is imperative - to question our government and corporations. Conspiracy theorists are a necessary check and balance in my opinion. And to think that some of our leaders out there, aren't already interested in conspiracy theories themselves, is downright naive.

For those who live in their own little world and are content with their life and oblivious to all the suffering and strangeness going on around them. I'm envious, because I bet you they sleep better than I do.

This article purports that conspiracy theorist thinking would somehow create a world and society that in reality is anathema to most of the ideas circulating in 'conspiracy communities'. In fact, a lot of the dystopic crap in this fictional future is merely a worse future version of current social realities.

This whole idea rests on the fallacious supposition that conspiracy theorists would by some miracle let the corporations of the world control our whole civilisation, that's the definition of fascism, most conspiracy theorists don't believe in fascism and are very critical of the conglomeration of corporations that form one of the pillars in the ever more expanding grid of control wrapped around the planet.

This article is ridiculous in so many ways.

There would be no need for security clearances because NOBODY would be able to keep a secret.

You'd have to be quite naive not to believe that there are conspiracies all-the-time. Governments all over the world conspire, lie, cover-up, deflect, and have secrets. They stage events, murder witnesses, threaten people and businesses, and engage in all types of criminal activity. People have even been misled into believing things that are not true simply because they are influenced by authority, establishment institutions, propaganda, self-deceit, and an unwillingness to investigate.

Good luck in the fantasy world of transparency.

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ha if conspiracy theorist ruled the world mainstream thinkers would be thought of as crazy's

its ying and yang.