Because in America if you want to know what the Government is doing, all you got to do is ask...., page 1


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Topic started on 16-1-2013 @ 07:14 PM by whatsecret
Some of you may remember a story that came out in 2010 about a 20 year old California citizen who found a device attached to his car and posted photos of it online. 48 hours later the FBI came for their GPS Tracking device.


And that was how we found out that the Government thinks they can track any of us at any time. But what are the possible reasons for them to do such a thing? Only they know the answer to this question.

Last year the FBI publicly announced the existence of two memos that outline the guidelines for applying these devices to track individuals location. So the ACLU filed a FOIA request for the release of the memos.

And this is what they got!

Guidance Regarding the Application of United States. v. Jones, 132 S. Ct. 945 (2012), to GPS Tracking Devices

and

Guidance Regarding the Application of United States v. Jones, 132 S. Ct.945 (2012), to Additional Investigative Techniques

And that's why we must show the rest of the world how in a free society the people have the right to petition the government.

Because in America if you want to know what the Government is doing, all you got to do is ask....



This is what it's like to live in a country where you are FREE to do what they tell you.

Justice Department Refuses to Release GPS Tracking Memos

Two key memos outlining the Justice Department’s views about when Americans can be surreptitiously tracked with GPS technology are being kept secret by the department despite a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit filed by the ACLU to force their release. The FBI’s general counsel discussed the existence of the two memos publicly last year, yet the Justice Department is refusing to release them without huge redactions.



reply posted on 17-1-2013 @ 12:35 PM by whatsecret
Another secret law, another day at the Obama DOJ

While we wait for courts to weigh in, how much privacy do Americans have in their movements? Exactly as much as law enforcement agents believe they must give us.



No one has anything to say about this? Really?


reply posted on 17-1-2013 @ 01:39 PM by GrimReaper86
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Releasing information about the motives behind investigation techniques such as those could easily be harmful for there investigation if the suspects they are tracking suddenly started looking for these devices because they fell under certain criteria. I know nothing about that man. He could just as easily be a former heavy drug trafficker or his car belonged to one at some point so the Feds may have been tracking drug movements. Of course that is merely speculation.


reply posted on 17-1-2013 @ 04:08 PM by whatsecret
Originally posted by GrimReaper86
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Releasing information about the motives behind investigation techniques such as those could easily be harmful for there investigation if the suspects they are tracking suddenly started looking for these devices because they fell under certain criteria. I know nothing about that man. He could just as easily be a former heavy drug trafficker or his car belonged to one at some point so the Feds may have been tracking drug movements. Of course that is merely speculation.


I guess I'm just one of those old school people, you know the type that think in America people are protected by the Bill of Rights and silly stuff like that.

It would be nice to know that they need to have some kind of probable cause and a court warrant to stick one of those things under your bumper. But that's crazy talk these days. Now it's the people that need to prove that Law Enforcement DON'T have probable cause for searches and seizures of property and privacy.

This kid by the way was guilty of one thing only, he is the son of a deceased Islamic-American community leader.


reply posted on 17-1-2013 @ 04:19 PM by Carreau
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A large amount of people have already spoken about this. 65,899,660 to be exact.


That is the amount of people who are perfectly ok with this type of actions by their Justice Department, their Attorney General, and their President.

Elections have consequences and right now there are more of them (people who don't care) than us (people who care).


reply posted on 17-1-2013 @ 04:23 PM by whatsecret
Originally posted by Carreau
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A large amount of people have already spoken about this. 65,899,660 to be exact.


That is the amount of people who are perfectly ok with this type of actions by their Justice Department, their Attorney General, and their President.

Elections have consequences and right now there are more of them (people who don't care) than us (people who care).


Well if all those people say it's okay... How sad.
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