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posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 09:16 PM
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So why don't you print your own money.

i know it's a radical idea, but why can't you print your money.

You're American, you have the same right to print the money as the next guy. it its not copyrighted, it can't be as it belongs to the public. if it was then it would mean that it belongs to someone, it is the property of someone else, hence not the American people, not yours.

You say it's illegal, then i would say its unconstitutional to a constitution that all men are created equal, if it was true then they couldn't pass a law preventing you from doing what another american is doing, printing money.

It is just another way of mining for gold, when you mine gold it is yours. Instead of mining you are printing it, printing wealth, the same wealth that every American has access to. Who says you have to work for it for someone else to give it to you.

If it's not illegal, it is what keeps those in power to those who don't. Challenge it in court and if it is true, the republic is right and the constitution true, then you will walk out a free man.

If not, you will know that it is not. But those in power will never allow it, and at the very least you will be allowed to print your own money, the exact same one used by every American.

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posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 09:27 PM
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My cousin and I knew 2 boys who did this when they were teenagers.



posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 09:35 PM
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The secret service would beg to differ.



posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 09:35 PM
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In theory, one could.

Problem is, no one would recognize it as money. You think a bank is going to take a deposit of 100 schrute-bucks? You think a store will let you buy bread with dickey-dollars?

Our system now as layers built into itself that absolutely would not allow for it to work, outside of counterfitting, and thats a different story altogether.



posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 09:38 PM
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It sure is illegal, it is not owned by the federal government, state government, municipal government, it is not even owned by you or China.
The Federal Reserve owns it.
Not too many people know that about their own government...I get labelled Anti-American but I seem to know more about their government then them...


So, when the US government wants money, the Treasury Department prints bonds (promissory notes aka debt obligations) and "sells" these to the Federal Reserve (private banking concern), which than "gives" the US government Federal Reserve Notes (tender). Thus the money the US government and thus in turn, the US people and all peoples and nations in the world who hold dollars (and why do you think they push these on the world so much?) are debt instruments owed to the Federal Reserve, by the holders. Thus, sooner or later you must return them, plus a percentage. Of course, to the Federal Reserve, the percentage is better.

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posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 09:39 PM
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Those stanley nickles could be worth something though.



posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 09:39 PM
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Originally posted by captaintyinknots
In theory, one could.

Problem is, no one would recognize it as money. You think a bank is going to take a deposit of 100 schrute-bucks? You think a store will let you buy bread with dickey-dollars?

Our system now as layers built into itself that absolutely would not allow for it to work, outside of counterfitting, and thats a different story altogether.


I would accept shrute bucks. You just can't buy them with Stanley Nickels.



posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 09:40 PM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 09:40 PM
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well played YOUREALLNUTS & SUPERMAN 2012, well played.
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posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 09:43 PM
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Sure you can print your own money. But without any value, it would be meaningless.

Or do you mean counterfeit?

In that case, you're making something and claiming it holds value, when in fact it was not considered into any valuable worth with a tangible item of equal value, which is naughty and not very nice.

besides, you don't own a nice shiny bank and can't tell it like it is like a sir.



posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 09:44 PM
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You can print money in the form of debt...it is an IOU. And you can barter or negotiate transactions with real specie (gold or silver). Money has to be agreeable as a medium of exchange, measure of value and a store of value. Counterfeiting the federal currency is and should be a crime (even if it is fiat).



posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 09:45 PM
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Originally posted by superman2012
I get labelled Anti-American but I seem to know more about their government then them...


So you should, you swore an out to uphold Truth, Justice and the American Way.

Don't pretend otherwise, batman.



posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 10:07 PM
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if you could convince a jury, then you might be on to something.

I wouldn't want to be the one they are judging though.



posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 10:11 PM
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Wrong. The 'Federal Reserve Note' is printed by a privately owned bank. The notes printed are not real money BUT 'legal tender'.

Which is why it is illegal to 'counterfeit'.

There is another thing that cannot be counterfeited in the USA as it belongs to the government. This is actually real money in the form of coins.

This is the law when it comes on coins (not paper dollars etc) 18 U.S.C. § 486


Whoever, except as authorized by law, makes or utters or passes, or attempts to utter or pass, any coins of gold or silver or other metal, or alloys of metals, intended for use as current money, whether in the resemblance of coins of the United States or of foreign countries, or of original design, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.


Notice that the law also ropes in there "Original Designs"...

This is the reason why the "Liberty Dollar" coin creator was convicted in federal court, please note all of the stuff the Liberty Dollar was attached to yet the poor sap was convicted because of the coins:


The Liberty Dollar (ALD) was a private currency produced in the United States. The currency was issued in minted metal rounds (i.e. coins), gold and silver certificates and electronic currency (eLD).

ALD certificates are "warehouse receipts" for real gold and silver owned by the bearer. According to court documents there were about 250,000 holders of Liberty Dollar certificates. The metal was warehoused at Sunshine Minting in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, prior to a November 2007 raid by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the Secret Service.

Until July 2009, the Liberty Dollar was distributed by Liberty Services (formerly known as "National Organization for the Repeal of the Federal Reserve and the Internal Revenue Code" (NORFED),



On March 18, 2011, von NotHaus was pronounced guilty of "making, possessing, and selling his own coins"


Source

Yet he WAS NOT convicted for his printed paper money nor for his electronically created currency.

The reason for this is because in the united states IT IS LEGAL to print your own currency. The catch is that it MUST BE in paper currency and NOT COINS just like the Federal Reserve does.

Contrary to popular belief, The federal reserve does not make coins and has never done so. The coins are made by the unites states mint and they have been doing so since 1792.

This is because unlike federal reserve notes, coins are in fact REAL CURRENCY since the metals and alloys they use is finite whereas federal reserve notes are created out of thin air and the ONLY thing that gives it value if the FAITH of the American Populace.

Another thing that 99.99 percent of Americans, including yourself, do not know is that the Federal Reserve Note is NOT THE ONLY PAPER CURRENCY in the USA.

There are many other paper currencies in the united states like

The Ithaca Hours (Printed Since 1992)





The BerkShares

Here is the CBS report



The Fox Business Report



And on ABC News



& even on a Japanese Financial Show



and many other paper currencies currently being used in the USA.

With that being said, YES YOU CAN PRINT YOUR OWN CURRENCY!

You can even call them: "The OP lack of history knowledge currency of ATS" or something like that...

YapTalk
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posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 10:16 PM
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Very informative! Thanks for sharing!



posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 10:28 PM
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Originally posted by superman2012
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Very informative! Thanks for sharing!


You're welcome.

Now that you have this new knowledge, ask yourself this question...

"If Ithaca Hours, BerkShares and the many other paper currencies being printed in the united states have value just like the dollar, what gives it value besides faith?"



posted on Jan, 11 2013 @ 02:10 AM
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Hey, give it a try. Let us know how you make out. Please show us your first printed form of currency.

Cheers! ID



posted on Jan, 11 2013 @ 08:14 AM
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Originally posted by ItDepends
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Hey, give it a try. Let us know how you make out. Please show us your first printed form of currency.

Cheers! ID


Did you not see the post above with the videos that show that printing your own paper currency IS legal right?



posted on Jan, 24 2013 @ 09:56 PM
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Originally posted by greenovni

Originally posted by ItDepends
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Hey, give it a try. Let us know how you make out. Please show us your first printed form of currency.

Cheers! ID


Did you not see the post above with the videos that show that printing your own paper currency IS legal right?


People just don't get it...



posted on Jan, 24 2013 @ 10:06 PM
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Kennedy and the other three assassinated prezidents tried printing their own...
gahdaffi was thinking of doing it too.
ooops...
look how that turned out

that might be why it might be considered a bad idea to follow those footsteps re printing yer own gelt



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