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we dont put the blame where it rests upon, US, THE PARENTS.
Originally posted by HomerinNC
You know I was thinking, in light of all these children and teems who are being arrested for possible attacks on their schools, those kids are eventually found out to been picked on, parents putting their children on ADD and ADHD medication, I come to realize, we have failed as parents.
I was picked on, beat up, spit on, you name it, it happened to me as a kid growing up. We were one of the poorest families in the neighborhood, and my mother and stepdad had the rep of being the drunks of the neighborhood, in other words, white trash on Long Island NY. this was back in the 80's
Never ONCE did I EVER even THINK about killing anyone or blowing up the school. We just didnt think about doing that back then.
What did we do as parents, to fail our children, to make them think about doing these things?
Are we too busy in our lives to LISTEN to our kids?
Do we ignore our children, not see the warning signs that there is trouble?
We blame the kids when this happens, we blame the TV shows they watch, we blame the video games they play, we blame the weapons and devices they use, we blame the medication theyre put on, we blame the government, we blame EVERYTHING under the sun for these events, BUT we dont put the blame where it rests upon, US, THE PARENTS.
Take timew to talk to your kids. If your normally outgoing child becomes withdrawn and angry, spends long amounts of time in their room, STOP AND TALK TO THEM. Dont just talk to them, GET INVOLVED with them.
Its easy to say we are too busy, gotta pay bills, gotta work, but OUR CHILDREN NEED US.edit on 1/8/2013 by HomerinNC because: (no reason given)
1800s November 2, 1853: Louisville, Kentucky A student, Matthew Ward, bought a self-cocking pistol in the morning, went to school and killed schoolmaster Mr. Butler for excessively punishing his brother the day before. Even though he shot the schoolmaster point blank in front of his classmates, he was acquitted.
September 11, 1859: Oakland, California Edward Carpenter accidentally shot himself dead while hunting on campus, he was one of the few students who were permitted to have a firearm at school.
June 8, 1867: New York City At Public School No. 18, a 13 year old boy brought a pistol loaded and capped, without the knowledge of his parents or school-teachers, and shot and injured a classmate.
December 22, 1868: Chattanooga, Tennessee A boy who refused to be whipped and left school, returned, with his brother and a friend, the next day to seek revenge on his teacher. Not finding the teacher at the school, they continued to his house, where a gun battle rang out, leaving three dead. Only the brother survived.
June 23, 1871: Lagrange, Indiana Miss Anna Dwight was shot to death in front of her students by a rejected suitor
March 9, 1873: Salisbury, Maryland After school as Miss Shockley was walking with four small children, she was approached by a Mr. Hall and shot. The Schoolmaster ran out, but Miss Shockley had died instantly. Hall threw himself under a train that night.
May 24, 1879: Lancaster, New York As the carriage loaded with female students was pulling out of the school's stables, Frank Shugart, a telegraph operator, shot and severely injured Mr. Carr, Superintendent of the stables. March 6, 1884: Boston, Massachusetts As news of Jesse James reached the east coast, young kids started to act in the same manner. An article from the New York Times reads, Another "Jesse James" Gang - Word was brought to the Fifth Police Station to-night that a number of boys were using the Concord-street School-house for some unknown purpose, and a posse of officers was sent to investigate. The gang scattered at the approach of the police, and in their flight one drew a revolver and fired at Officer Rowan, without effect, however. William Nangle, age 14, and Sidney Duncan, age 12, were captured, but the other five or six escaped, among them the one who did the shooting. The boys refused to disclose the object of their meeting, but it is thought that another "Jesse James" organization has been broken up.
March 15, 1884: Gainesville, Georgia In the middle of the day, a group of very drunk Jackson County farmers left the Jug Tavern drinking and shooting their revolvers as they headed down the street driving people into their homes. As they approached the female academy, the girls fled the schoolyard into the school where the gang followed swearing and shooting, firing several rounds into the front door. No one was hurt.
June 12, 1887: Cleveland, Tennessee Will Guess went to the school and fatally shot Miss Irene Fann, his little sister's teacher, for whipping her the day before.
June 13, 1889: New Brunswick, New Jersey Charles Crawford, upset over an argument with a school Trustee, went up to the window and fired a pistol into a crowded school room. The bullet lodged in the wall just above the teacher's head.
April 24, 1890 Brazil, Indiana While the pupils of the Meridian Street School were at play, Ben Corbery drew a revolver and shot Cora Brubach, aged 10, seriously wounding her in the face. The reason for the assault was that the girl had informed the teacher of Ben's misconduct.
April 9, 1891: Newburgh, New York James Foster, 70, fired a shotgun at a group of students in the playground of St. Mary's Parochial School, causing minor injuries to several of the students. The first known mass shooting in the U.S. where students were shot by an American citizen. The majority of attacks during this time period by students on other students or teachers usually involved stabbing with knives or hitting with stones.
December 28, 1898: Sioux City, Iowa Teacher, May Thomas was lured out of the schoolhouse by Harry Garvey who was devoted her, but she had refused his further attentions. He then pulled a revolver out and shot her dead, then killed himself.
Originally posted by Mijamija
From what I understand the guy in CT came from a well off family, but he had mental difficulties, was possibly on meds(which could be a good thing or a bad thing depending on other factors), and on top of that divorced parents, he was isolated from his peers, lived on his computer( too much fantasy perhaps?) the reports say that his mom was very caring toward him, but I have yet to hear about the boys relationship with his dad? (maybe I missed that though....sandy hook threads were just too much for me and so I haven't really kept up).
That is one example, but I know for me personally, I tend to be emotionally raw, so things that other people aren't easily affected by, I really feel. Sometimes, just being out in society for extended periods drives me crazy....so I can only imagine a person who has to deal with all the pressures of this world, plus has a broken family structure, plus has some form of mental difficulty. Recipe for disaster....
And yet, there are so many who have these same problems.....who never do this sort of thing......
Maybe that is one reason why people are having a hard time believing this sandy hook story, on top of the terrible media screw ups, it. Just seems so damn hard to see how a person could do this.
we look for answers in our attempt to understand, hoping in our hearts, if we can just understand, we can keep things like this from happening again. At least, that is what I have been doing.
Originally posted by HomerinNC
reply to post by frazzle
Please stay on topic, this isn't about the CT shootings, this is about why kids today are killing others, no specific case is mentioned, there are a ton other threads to talk about the CT conspiracyedit on 1/8/2013 by HomerinNC because: (no reason given)