Originally posted by JayinAR
This argument is best summed up in two parts. One in the phrase, "truth is at first ridiculed, then violently opposed, and then accepted as
self-evident truth". Two is from Sagan's Contact when Dr. Hathaway appeals to Drumlin for cutting her telescope slot. She appeals that if just ONE
star, in ONE galaxy, yadda yadda yadda, and he counters by saying that the distances are either too vast or all you will ever find are noble gasses
Now fast forward to right now and the skeptics "don't say" that alien life doesn't exist anymore. Why? Because in these very few years this truth
has become self-evident.
Just wait until more data flows in...it will become increasingly obvious. And when we discover warp capability, it will rewrite the books for most.
But you will still have lots of people arrogant enough to insist we are the ONLY species to have developed inter stellar flight. Haha.
And until THAT is shown false, skeptics will continue to "win" this foolish debate.
But its all good. That's how it should be. It promotes progress.
I understand your point. However, this is where we ALL need to be careful. When we throw words around like "truth" it generally (without getting
into the complexity of humanities versus scientifc definitions) refers to facts, something that has been proven to be known. (and something that is
true, or is truth today, can easily be changed tomorrow, with NEW knowledge, NEW Facts).
Concepts of a type of "warp" speed are only concepts at this point. I really cannot elaborate more on this only to say that it does not violate
Einstein's law of relativity. If there is curiosity, additional information can be found by researching physicist Harold White and physicist Miguel
Alcubierre. They and others have in fact tested the concept of hyper-speed, but I can assure you, any human use/application is not within reach in the
foreseeable future (minimum 50 years). That is all I can say on that matter.
Regarding the discovery of alien life (any organic or biological substance) beyond earth? The truth
is that we have not found it
Realistically, our most likely chance of finding life will occur either by the findings of an asteroid (either us landing an
umanned device on one, or the remote chance of one entering earths atmosphere and hitting some land mass versus landing in the ocean). I am not
talking about a major event, but a relatively smaller sized asteroid.
When one talks of advanced or intelligent alien life, as romantic or thrilling as that might be, the current facts have not revealed that to be
The probability of us
finding intelligent life elsewhere cannot happen until we are truly able to advance our propulsion
systems (where we have made enormous advancements), but are still prohibitive of us even searching our own galaxy in a 'human-life-span' scenario.
We will not solve this problem during our generations lifetime, if not, in many generations to come. How many? I don't know. However, what I can say
is that there is significant efforts and expenditures that have been made and currently being made and will continue to be made in this endeavor.
The probability of finding alien intelligent life any sooner, would only be increased IF
such 'intelligent life' exists and
finds us first. It's what some scientists and others dreams are made of. But, the truth and facts are, it has not happened thusfar. Although I will
add that there have been some interesting incidents that remain under investigation/research at our highest engineering and scientific
communites/labs/locations. I am unable to add anything further.
In conclusion, a propulsion system that would allow us to travel outside the galaxy in a manned mission, does not exist, and most likely not exist
during our generation (50-100 years minimum). As far as alien life, we have found neither organic/biological evidence nor have WE found Intelligent
life beyond our own planet. I am talking of current terms. No one can predict the future precisely, we can only continue to improve our search
capabilities and continue to understand with more clarity known unknowns. (these then, will be the truths that we have yet to find and change our
currently known truths). My wish is not to convolute matters, but to add some understanding. Regards!