posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 05:14 PM
Originally posted by sailormon
Now and then I drop a crumb into the mix when this subject comes up. Someone asked and I did not read further, sorry time constraint on this end, at
least until I thought about it. They wanted to know your first hand experience. I have often thought of making a thread similar but without answers
as I don't have many.
I think I have communicated with the same 'they'. I have helped them, or tried to help them with sorting out their system with family lines and also
the parts about the connecting the different tribes through history, mostly because of my own interests in the hereafter.
I will not say for I can only glean from others pat terms or names of these entities. So I suggest unless one knows from first hand, exclude
that which you don't know. I know they exist in the physical or close to it as my wife and I have had that experience.
That is the heart of the issue, there is a group of people living the closest to the physical layer from a very long time ago which have problems with
these entities. They are those who keep the human spirit intact. Currently I am the only person who is keeping that layer and those of the entities
seperate, like a gatekeeper not because I was chosen or destined or anything but just because it worked out that way. Basically kept being pushed
further down into the layers of this planet and later existence until I got pushed into the afterlife, from where I couldn't go any further but I
could also see this undiscovered layer.
Lost time is of course not provable, but can be observed and this also is our experience.
I could tell about time if you want me to. But currently I'm broke and I only do these favors when I have that green stuff
Did they do this in the physical or the astral, I do not know.
Not in the physical but in the astral.
In some of my travels out of body,
I have never personally had I 'full' out of body experience as in my case it would be a bad thing. I would advise anyone from doing so and stick to
astral projection only, hearing is also allowed but no feeling and certainly none of the sexual encounters.
I discovered there are limits that some of us are allowed to go, a barrier. Does that mean we are in a spiritual prison,
Not a prison at all, it's just sometimes information cannot be processed either because the human can't fit it in the psyche or that particular
human might have connections or information which might interact with other information in a negative way. Everyone's action's affects the other in
a way but there is only one truth, which is held by this group in this primordial layer, this first layer of the first people who became aware of
their self and have been isolated since maybe the neanderthal's era.
but twice I was told not to go beyond the barrier or leave the earth.
Well maybe you can ask them for a spaceship and a trip to Mars. Earth will always be your home.
I do know this, getting out into the astral level does not equate to having wisdom, we are all children on a play ground, but perhap very wise
when we truly wake up. I remember backing down this presence and proclaiming I would take control of my own destiny and I had the power to do so, for
it backed away, but I showed little wisdom following that.
You don't need to get out of the astral level, you need to learn how to control yourself so you can have fun there. It all depends on your truths you
stick with, if they are aligned to this first layer you go to the better parts but if you drift from your truths or see untruths as truth and refuse
to change this then you will be pushed away from that layer. Depending on what you see as truth and untruth is where you will end up. This first layer
is not to be journeyed to, this is solely reserved for the first humans who achieved awareness and none can go there so don't ever try. They will
visit us when we and them are ready, for that to happen a lot of people have to do a number of things which few will want to do as they would have to
give up these things.
Happy sailing all.
Actually I don't sail or move at all