Bomb suspects arrested in NYC, had "terrorist encyclopedia"

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posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 02:34 PM
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New York bomb suspects had "terrorist encyclopedia".


NEW YORK (Reuters) - Police arrested a New York City couple in their apartment on Saturday after authorities investigating a credit card theft found a highly explosive compound, bomb-making manuals, a sawed-off shotgun and ammunition, officials said on Monday.

Morgan Gliedman, 27, and Aaron Greene, 31, are being charged with two counts of suspicion of criminal possession of a weapon, for the shotgun, court documents show.

One sheaf of papers found in the apartment had a cover page that read "The Terrorist Encyclopedia," according to court documents.

So the police are investigating a "credit card theft"? Seriously? When is the last time that the police got involved over a stolen credit card... I can answer that, never.

So the girl is from a well to do family and the guy is a Harvard grad...

Somehow the police also determined that the one suspect was part of OWS and held views that were "extreme". How did they make this determination?

Something is off in all of this.

More on the suspects here (what a bizarre headline): Meet the Most Spoiled Bombing Suspect in New York City.

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posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 02:37 PM
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they did their job.

it could have been worse, like leaving a package of high explosives in a public place.

america is a democracy, you have tools to fight that don't require dynamite and c4.

and the ones that threatened the establishment the most, did it without guns; martin luther king jr, jfk, etc...

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posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by randomname
they did their job.

it could have been worse, like leaving a package of high explosives in a public place.

america is a democracy, you have tools to fight that don't require dynamite and c4.

and the ones that threatened the establishment the most, did it without guns; martin luther king jr, jfk, etc...
Yes and TPTB killed them to shut them up thus stopping major changes.



posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 02:52 PM
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Originally posted by randomname
and the ones that threatened the establishment the most, did it without guns; martin luther king jr, jfk, etc...

Well, we all know how MLK's role model, Gandhi, felt about guns:


'Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest. - Gandhi



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posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 03:28 PM
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I couldn't help but notice the inflammatory and propagandist language of the Reuters story: a "cache of weapons" is a flare gun and a shotgun and some (perhaps empty) magazines? Gee, the Anarchist Cookbook has been in and out of print for the last 40-something years and I've seen it on bookshelves only yesterday. The printout referenced in the article looks like the internet version of that book, or perhaps the Improvised Munitions USArmy Field Manual.....

One has to wonder what the "probable cause" was - maybe they bought the HMTD using a credit card


ganjoa
edit on 31-12-2012 by ganjoa because: misspelled HMTD as HTMD



posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 04:13 PM
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You're right, OP.....the police never investigate stolen credit cards. The card is invalidated by the issuing bank and they usually eat the charges, which are written off at tax time.

I think the "stolen card" story is to cover the fact that these people were on a watch list due to their involvement in OWS. Seems like this is a shot across the bow for people who might consider ways of making their displeasure of the government known.



posted on Jan, 2 2013 @ 08:25 AM
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Long time reader but a new poster at ATS. I posted this under the WWIII thread about this topic, but probably should have posted it here.

www.thedailybeast.com...

Proof that for the rich life is different.

Quotes from the article:
Indeed, in the first days of the investigation police reached the tentative conclusion that the explosives and weapons were just part of a drug-fueled, twisted sense of what constitutes cool...

...The other visitors were the police. The criminal complaint filed against Greene and Gliedman says that the cops discovered a plastic container in the living room holding seven grams of a white power that was identified as Hexamethylene Triperoxide Diamine, or HMTD, an easy-to-make explosive and a favorite of actual terrorists. 

The complaint says that police also found the makings for more of the stuff, as well as a sawed-off 12-gauge Mossberg 500 shotgun, a Ruger 12-gauge shotgun, a dozen 12-gauge shotgun shells, 9 high-capacity rifle magazines, and 60 5.56-caliber tracer rounds. There was also a 37mm flare launcher, a replica of a M203 grenade launcher.  

The complaint also lists a number of books and manuals said to be found in the apartment: 

- The Terrorist’s Encyclopedia V. 1.02
- FM 5-25 Explosives and Demolitions 
- FM 5-31 Booby Traps
- Improvised and Modified Firearms: Deadly Homemade Weapons
- A Do-It-Yourself Submachine Gun
- Street Sweeper: A Home Workshop Shotgun
- Building the M11/9: A Guide to Construction and Coercion
- FM 5-25 Explosives and Demolitions 
- FM 5-31 Booby Traps...

...To cops, Greene appears to be living proof that going to Harvard does not necessarily make you any less a knucklehead...

That's precious. Junkies with terrorist manuals, a weapons cache and home made explosives are just "knuckleheads" with "a twisted sense of what constitutes cool." They're spinning it that the cops don't believe they had any intentions of commiting terror attacks. They're just, you know, knuckleheads.

Next false flag foiled by accidental arrest of the hired perpetrators?



posted on Jan, 2 2013 @ 09:58 AM
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www.nypost.com...

She had not been charged with stealing someone's laptop, phone, wallet and credit cards in February 2012 but received pre-trial probation for drug possession from an arrest five days later. The lenient treatment was probably due to having influential parents but charges can also be held in abeyance for a specific reason for a drug abuser, to compel them to act as informer or give testimony, for instance.

You would think Bloomberg would at least get an anti gun or anti OWS sound bite in. Instead his police are assuring the media, "These are high class junkies, not terrorists."





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