Do not try to understand the subtle.

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posted on Dec, 2 2012 @ 08:00 AM
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Originally posted by Dustytoad
Usually I post
to show funny... in a non sarcastic way...

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I don't post 'funnies'.




posted on Dec, 2 2012 @ 08:00 AM
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I personally, would not be so direct in teaching now and again. True help comes from learning, not from forced teaching. Does one push an ass over a cliff and expect not to get kicked? To put this in a way that may be less offensive to one, you remind me of a foolish matador goading a quick tempered and powerful beast. Yet is surprised when his own donkey ends up on the wrong side of a horn. (How's that for subtlety?)



posted on Dec, 2 2012 @ 08:05 AM
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Originally posted by 522777555
I personally, would not be so direct in teaching now and again. True help comes from learning, not from forced teaching. Does one push an ass over a cliff and expect not to get kicked? To put this in a way that may be less offensive to one, you remind me of a foolish matador goading a quick tempered and powerful beast. Yet is surprised when his own donkey ends up on the wrong side of a horn. (How's that for subtlety?)


Can anyone be forced to learn?
There is nothing to learn - unlearning is what needs to be done.

Who is forcing anything? You come here and read.



posted on Dec, 2 2012 @ 08:07 AM
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Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by Dustytoad
 


It is funny because afterinfinity told me to get lost. Afterinfinity thinks that he can control what i write.
I did not say i did not care.


I didn't say that either. It was a comparison to thoughts in defense of oneself that are not true, and thoughts that are true.

I see it too much and I will always call it out.

Funny =


In defense = I think it's funny he doesn't like me.

I defend words as much as people.

And yes Afterinfinity can be like that sometimes, but other times he is awesome. I happen to think some of your posts are lacking as he does.


"I don't post 'funnies'."

Then don't say "I find that funny"

More constructively because I don't want to attack you...
What does your first post mean exactly?
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posted on Dec, 2 2012 @ 08:12 AM
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Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by Angle
 


What is seeing is overlooked.
The truth is hidden in plain sight.
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The subtle that the OP is speaking about is overlooked but is here constantly. It is what is seeing.
What is seen is seen - so is obvious.
What is seeing cannot be seen but is present always.

The truth is hidden in the plain act of seeing.
Can you see the seer? Have a look and see if you can find what is seeing this.



posted on Dec, 2 2012 @ 08:13 AM
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reply to post by Itisnowagain
 


ahh ok


I like it.



posted on Dec, 2 2012 @ 08:15 AM
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Originally posted by Dustytoad
reply to post by Itisnowagain
 


ahh ok


I like it.


Can you find the seer of what is being seen?
Have a go, have a look.
Is there an answer to the question?
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posted on Dec, 2 2012 @ 08:16 AM
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Explain the seer of what is being seen.



posted on Dec, 2 2012 @ 08:18 AM
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Originally posted by AfterInfinity
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Explain the seer of what is being seen.


I cannot 'explain' the seer.
You can look to see what is seeing and find out.



posted on Dec, 2 2012 @ 08:30 AM
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Then what good are you?! You keep talking all this "seeing the seer" nonsense and refusing to elaborate. Can you not throw us a bone? Just a little something to work with besides riddles and clues? This is not a game. Stop acting like it is. Please. You're not helping anyone here.



posted on Dec, 2 2012 @ 08:32 AM
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All he or she.. sorry can't tell yet, but probably he, is saying is this:

"Know Thyself."

Just not through thinking about it.. hahaha
What a conundrum.

Yet it is true.

@Itisnowagain Of course.. I fight every side as to diminish hate or misunderstanding of any side.. I already AM. It's always been NOW and I've always been here. I have no question on who I AM.
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posted on Dec, 2 2012 @ 08:33 AM
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Reading your posts is always a pleasure, Itisnowagain.


What was written in another thread fits pretty well here



Two birds, beautiful of wing, close companions, cling to one
common tree: of the two one eats the sweet fruit of the tree,
the other eats not but watches his fellow.

The soul is the bird that sits immersed on the one common
tree; but because he is not lord he is bewildered and has
sorrow. But when he sees that other who is the Lord and
beloved, he knows that all is His greatness and his sorrow
passes away from him.

When, a seer, he sees the Golden-hued, the maker, the Lord,
the Spirit who is the source..., then he becomes the
knower and shakes from his wings sin and virtue; pure
of all stain he reaches the supreme identity...

Vast is That, divine, its form unthinkable; it shines out sub-
tler than the subtle: very far and farther than farness, it is
here close to us, for those who have vision it is even here in
this world; it is here, hidden in the secret heart....

- Mundaka Upanishad (chapter three, section one).



posted on Dec, 2 2012 @ 08:50 AM
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Originally posted by AfterInfinity
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Then what good are you?! You keep talking all this "seeing the seer" nonsense and refusing to elaborate. Can you not throw us a bone? Just a little something to work with besides riddles and clues? This is not a game. Stop acting like it is. Please. You're not helping anyone here.


I have told you to look toward what is seeing.
I cannot help you look toward the seer.
You have all that you need.

“What we are looking for is what is looking.”
― St. Francis of Assisi
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posted on Dec, 2 2012 @ 08:59 AM
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Explanation: S&F!



Obvious qualities in the above posted picture [posted as a self generated example only]

Dimesions: 200 pixels wide and 200 pixels tall

Colours: Black and White ONLY!

Now ... what is subtle and what is gross in the above picture?


The white area takes up >90% of the picture!

The black orb takes up



posted on Dec, 2 2012 @ 09:02 AM
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The space is not seen. Only content appears.
But the content cannot 'be' without space being there first for it to appear in/on.
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posted on Dec, 2 2012 @ 09:03 AM
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Your hopes are lost on me..

I'm not looking for it.


Are you really the End of Reason?
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posted on Dec, 2 2012 @ 09:23 AM
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Explanation: St*rred!

I concur!




However, since you have identified the white area as the 'space' where content appears ... now then,... does the reversed picture also imply the same outcome if you don't shift your current point of view?


Regardless of yes or no reply ... please detail the whys ok!


Personal Disclosure: I st*rred all your posts to this thread!



posted on Dec, 2 2012 @ 09:24 AM
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Explanation: St*rred!

I am not sorry at all that I completely lied about my hopes!


Personal Disclosure: ...


Are you really the End of Reason?


No ... but I do live there!


And it is only a very very very short distance away from my last resort ... and that place is no picnic camp.


But thank you for grilling me on that issue ... I do try to be as transparent as I can be ... unfortunately I still come across as very opaque! :shk:

I also st*rred all your posts to this thread!



posted on Dec, 2 2012 @ 09:29 AM
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You make me smile.

I like that.


Oh and I knew those were not your hopes.. BUT
I have to play along or the grammar gets weird.
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posted on Dec, 2 2012 @ 09:45 AM
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Nothing has changed except the colour imo.
Space cannot be contained. In space appearance appears.

Do you have an alternative answer for consideration?
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