posted on Nov, 24 2012 @ 03:12 PM
Read the title, it says a lot in very few words. I was reading the discussion about how too many people here in the U.S. have to be on SNAP and
thought that I should bring this up, but it didn't seem like I should derail that thread with this. So here it is, our chance to discuss our
different opinions about if the U.S. government creates jobs.
Obviously, I do not think that the government creates jobs. I also don't that that should be the purpose of the government. I mean sure, the
government creates "government jobs," but that just adds to our federal spending. Government does not create the majority of jobs in America, those
would be "private" jobs.
It would seem that many of us here on ATS believe that it is the government's fault that there are so many people who are in need of things like
foodstamps. But if the government doesn't make the jobs then how is it their fault that there aren't enough of them?
Some would argue the "too much regulations on businesses" angle but those people are wrong. What many of us fail to accept is that in the eyes of
our government, big businesses and small business are two very different entities.
Too many regulations on business... Do you mean small business? That I can agree with entirely. However, larger businesses who can afford to convince
politicians to push for laws that benefit them are nowhere near as regulated and have many more loopholes available to them than the majority of small
business can even dream of.
Every time I see a discussion here on ATS about this kind of thing you have people defending large businesses tooth and nail. Making claims that if
you put regulations on those larger businesses you are contributing to crippling all of us, while mostly ignoring the fact that small business already
have tons of regulations and rules they are required to follow.
A lot of these things like Obamacare don't hurt the big business at all but they damn sure affect the small business. You'll never hear me argue
otherwise, no matter how "socialist" or liberal some of you would like to believe I am. I know Obamacare is bad for small businesses, but this
ain't about that anyway, it's about how government doesn't create jobs. What the government does do is "regulate" jobs and prevent small
businesses from being created while working with big businesses. Now I know that Obamacare applies to pretty much all business including the big ones
but what people can't do is tell me how it's bad for larger businesses, all they keep saying is that it isn't "fair" but while making such an
argument they are failing to accept that life ain't fair.
But lets not waste too much time talking about that crap... Like I said, I don't want this to be about Obamacare, there's already tons of threads
So the big thing for me is that it seems as if many of my fellow Americans think that the government creates jobs, when it actually does nothing of
the sort. A while ago I commented that the government prevents small business from being created. This is a true statement. It doesn't matter who you
are or which side of the political table you prefer to sit on, none of you can provide a reasonable argument to suggest that the government in it's
current state, including both liberal and conservative politicians, isn't preventing small businesses from being created. You also can't prove that
it doesn't seem to favor larger businesses.
So with hat being said, I simply cannot see how the government is in any way, shape, form, or fashion helping to create jobs. It would seem that it is
doing the exact opposite. This is a conspiracy site and I do not think that it is unreasonable to assume that our government is doing everything that
it can to help out its big business buddies, which ultimately leads to destroying small business competition. Those big business people pay the
politicians, so why wouldn't the politicians want them to have more money?
So it is true that we have far too many poor here in the states right now but it is not for the fact that the government isn't creating enough jobs.
The government isn't supposed to create jobs, that's not its responsibility. One of its responsibilities should be to ensure that the people of the
nation aren't harming one another. But by backing big business while helping to push small business out of town, it damn sure isn't doing that.
I've never heard of a small business that has been "bailed out." I hear of a lot of that happening for big ones though. If a small business fails
then it fails, bottom line, end of story. Why should a large business not be expected to be treated the same?
Unlike many of you, I would not oppose the government actually helping to make jobs. One way this could be done is by learning to accept that very
large businesses and corporations are not the same as small businesses and to put them into separate categories with different rules. I would propose
that we remove some of the crazy regulation on small business and add some to the bigger ones so that they are not allowed to essentially screw the
people as hard as they currently do.
We could prevent off-shoring but many Americans scream the word "socialism " when someone such as myself makes such a suggestion. The government
should step in at some point. If you're going to run a business in this country then you're going to run a business IN this country. If you do not
like the fact that while you're still making much more money than any "average" American is by hiring fellow Americans to work for your company
than you are free to look for a different line of work. Nobody should be telling us what kind of work we should be doing, if we don't like our job
than it should be up to us to find something else, so if some rich business dude doesn't like the fact that by employing Americans he will not make
as much money as he would like to be doing then he is completely free to find a different line of work, just like all of us. How does that hurt the
country? How is it unfair? It doesn't and it isn't!
If we made it unprofitable for a company to off shore jobs then there would be a lot more jobs in America and, in a way, the government would be
helping to "create" jobs. There are also tons of stupid rules that prevent jobs from being made int his country. Industrial hemp...
The bottom line is that we can't complain that we have so many poor because the government isn't making enough job because that isn't what the
government does in the first place. However, we can complain that by aligning with larger businesses and doing more than it should to ensure that they
remain in power, the government IS a leading cause for why there are so many poor people in America.
We shouldn't expect for the government to make jobs, that sounds kind of "socialist" to me. What we should expect is for the government to leave us
alone and let jobs make themselves while also not "picking favorites." Just imagine how many jobs could be created if we only did two things: make
off-shoring pointless, and industrial hemp was no longer illegal. There is A LOT more that could be done but I'm just saying... those are two very
small examples of how to bring back jobs. What's wrong with that?