British Entrepreneur of US Biz On Verge of Collapse - US Mate Debating On leaving For Uk? Advice/Tho

I thought ATS would be the best place to ask for input, advice or personal experiences to assist in leaving the US to live in the UK. My partner is a British citizen and he owns a small biz here in the south - providing products for companies here and abroad. Unfortunately I am pretty much disabled and have not been able to pull my weight for 3 years, resulting in a decrease of sales and revenue has become a week to week stipend, with the economy & our sales plumuting.

We also have a toddler and absolutely no family that could help if we fall flat on our face! Well, there is my disabled mom who has a room available in her small apartment in a town with 1 red light. One caveat that could be a perk or peril - the GA/FL coast is 45 mins away. Our business can be ran from anywhere. Assuming it will pick up after our legislatures manage a decision on the budgets OR NOT.

That brings me to another con so to speak. If things hit the fan and there are massive earth changes it may be that we are going from the pot to the frying pan. We have a wonderful blessing of a 4 year old; who chose her 40++ parents of a 20 year old, 21 year old, 22 year old and 14 year old. One of the oldest children are mine the youngest is my partner who has partial custody. Leaving our main focus on doing what is best for the youngest. But what is the best, that is where I am faultering.

As far as support, it is a no brainer to jump the pond so to speak and seek a brighter future. This is where my pros begin. I would be able to gain a solution to remedy my disabillities, give the 4 year old cousins that are her age and being surrounded by many brother and sister-in laws. Who are all just a phone call away when in need. Of course our children are living there own lives and we do not want to interrupt their personal paths.

Now we are back to where I am....not sure what is best as far as quality of life. I know we can't predict the future but I am skeptical of things - especially many forums that are covered here. This is why I thought I would share my delima hoping that with all things ATS; is the UK a better place in creating a healthier (food/meds/support) path in escaping the US or is the US not that bad and need to adjust my attitude not the path.

Thanks in advance for reading!

Hi!

I can't comment in regard to how things are in the UK personally, but, it seems to me that if the US is about to go off the cliff, the UK and Europe are not far behind, or will even go first.
Family support does count for a lot though, no doubt about it.
No advice really, just wanted to respond, let you know someone's listening. Good luck

Do not go back to the uk if you can help it, The situation is dire and getting worse and to top it off the unemployment safety net has been pulled and replaced with compulsory slave labour so if you wanna keep your benefit after 13 weeks then be prepared to stack shelves for tesco or any other company that has taken advantage of the new system designed to make use of people in dire straits, if you can stay in the u.s i would stay just for the weather if nothing else, Britian has been stuffed and is currently on a slow but increasing heat to an inevitable greek tragedy

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Thanks CC777! Your signature sounds like one of the voices in my head right now!

Yes, I see this as a systmeic issue and my other half does not! I am the "news" hound, seeker of the truths as far as what is upon us. What really scares me is taking the leap of faith, and then being stranded on an island if other "things" come ot a head.

Hi,

As a disabled person you would not get benafits until you either become a UK Citizen or have lived here for 2 years and have Indefinate Leave to Remain status (ILR) so this could make things hard for you. Also the economy isn't too great here either so you might be jumping out of the frying pan into the fire. Good luck whatever you decide.

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Your comments are just as what I have been reading. My other half, I believe may have just a bit more then homesickness and truly has euphoria of the mindset to pack up and leave for a fresh start having the shelter of family. Believing if we change locations the insanity of doing the same things but expecting a different result will some how dissapate by relocation. Hence I seek refuge within ATS to try an deny ignorance.

Thanks for your input!

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Thanks Michael for your response. Hopefully you weren't speaking from experience!

The Brit has been told differently. One nugget is that he is a British National. He is former SAS, which may be feeding the hope of a different scenario then here. His mother is the one playing the role of information officer having lived there all of her life, without exposure to chronic illness or immigrating friends/family other then my other half. Your declaration will be hard for my him to swallow. He hopes to continue our business and seek a second job to earn additional income, in hopes to make a better life. Again I think his mother may be a little uninformed and believes the jobless rates are much lower in her area then elsewhere.

Within 2 years I hope to have a solution to return back to the battlegrounds of paying taxes through very painful injections - of reality and medication!

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As far as I am aware having recently brought my wife in from an EU Country, non EU residents are not entitled to any kind of state welfare until they attain ILR or Citizenship status.

Also as a posative for you, there are job markets in the UK that seem to have not been affected like my industry for example (Media/Telecomunications), however the cost of living compared to wages is not so great.

reply to post by michael1983l


Our biz consists of selling/printing tradeshow displays, banners for all industries and renderings to the commercial and consumer realtors.

As things unfold here - our prez is meeting w/ labor unions and others that believe big gov't is the answer to our economic "cliff" we are heading over. Progressives. They believe govt and a form of marxism, socialism and communism all in one is our answer. There won't be enough revenue coming in to cover those who have lived off of entilements for many decades.

Looks like there may be no where to run. Decide between the lesser of 2 evils. No the conspiracy theorist is speaking to me.

Good luck with your situation!!

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HI, thanks for answering my post...if I did not.

Are you in the UK? I wonder if I could get your thoughts of the situation there now if so.

It seems that we may be heading there come Jan/Feb - Kings Lynn or Torquey or in a radius of about two hours of them both. My partner is former SAS, which makes him a national and my daughter will gain citizenship. He is having trouble determining if he has to secure a job there or our current business can be totally remote. He isn't sure if the 22k$euros are still a mandate for non-citizen partners to be sponsored and able to gain access to healthcare. He is having trouble gaining clarity on this subject. It reads that we need to have secured the amount necessary for my access to healthcare or do we need to prove we could earn it through our current business.

Seems like the US is the Nanny state and UK is big brother or basically fraternal twins.

Costa Rica sounds nice at this point; only if I might secure a chiro and ortho in my carry-on.

the norm for immigration to the uk from a non eu country is that you must hold employment on a Green card for 4 years to be eligible for a uk Passport and as for health care i believe there is somekind of system to buy in early though as national insurance an tax will be deducted from any wages regardless you would have to take that up with the .gov

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