Giant sonic boom felt and heard in Indianapolis Indiana(meteor? mass devastation Info blocade

Originally posted by sligtlyskeptical

Originally posted by roadgravel
reply to post by Honor93

 

Our experience is that cats do worse when taken some where versus left at home. There are exceptions.

Wonder if they have boarded the cat before (IE: have records). Still sounds fishy..

The people were no longer living in the house. Would you leave your cat behind if you moved out? Of course not. The cat being boarded is not an issue here.

The fact that the boyfriend of the owner was seen at the property earlier in the day is an issue.

wrong.
the x-hubby was no longer living in the house.
the x-wife, her new boyfriend and daughter WERE living in the house and had left Friday night for a weekend at the Casino. they planned on returning Sunday. (see the link provided)

besides, why would you give credence to the man who has not been there for a year rather the woman who does live there and has lost her home and everything in it ?

to answer your question, i wouldn't but my neighbor just did, not 2 whole weeks ago.
left FL for KY and just brought the cat into their FL residence less than 30 days prior.
so yes, it happens.

i agree with your last comment provided it can be proven that it was the boyfriend.
again, it's just hearsay and that's all the weight i can give it at this time.

reply to post by Honor93

what does "built strong" have to do with airtight ?

Nothing, As I mentioned, weak structure can be relatively airtight, but it doesn't mean it is, just as strong might not be.

A plastic bag is reasonably airtight but not strong.

I think you may have misinterpreted my posts.

Originally posted by roadgravel
What happened to the idea that the people stayed at a motel because the heater was not working and had it fixed.

If they were leaving, they could have just shut it off. Sounds like they were not spending money on the house but they fixed the heater even though they were not going to live there.

Still sounds fishy. Maybe they left because they had plans to destroy the house,

dude, read the link already and these silly questions will be answered by the source, what more could you ask for ?
their motel stay over the heater not turning on was weeeeeks earlier, not days or hours.
they had the thermostat replaced and the heat functioned fine.
no other furnace/fuel problems indicated.

they were living there, they went out for weekend, don't you ?

reply to post by PieceOfThePuzzle

What red pill. Got white pills, blue pills, and clear pills. No red ones though. You are a strange dude.

reply to post by Honor93


I was referring to the building structure issues which you pointed out several times.

The home owner mentioned themostat. Wonder if it was actually themocouple?

Maybe someone will dig up the repair records at the repair shop.

reply to post by roadgravel


My thoughts have been wondering here also. You wouldnt think people would be that stupid, but the ex wife and husband probablly looked at their old house as just a financial burden. Things can get out of hand very quick. All these experts two people dead every 3 letter org you can think of on this and they cant confirm gas explosion by faulty furnace??

reply to post by PieceOfThePuzzle

hmmmm, my personal stalker ... what's your point this time ?
would you like their names ? their ages ? their past-life forms ?

nvm ... it isn't on topic so why don't you get there rather pollute this thread with your silly nonsense.

Originally posted by Honor93
reply to post by PieceOfThePuzzle

 

hmmmm, my personal stalker ... what's your point this time ?

would you like their names ? their ages ? their past-life forms ?

nvm ... it isn't on topic so why don't you get there rather pollute this thread with your silly nonsense.

This song reminds me of you: www.youtube.com...

Did the martians hit the house, or was it a drone. You confuse me

Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by PieceOfThePuzzle

 

What red pill. Got white pills, blue pills, and clear pills. No red ones though. You are a strange dude.

edit on Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:14:03 -0600 by TKDRL because: (no reason given)

Are you sure, my man? It would seem to me, as a martian cia drone pilot who was paid by the feds to say I have been to scenes, that you do.

Nothing conclusive one way or the other, of course...

Shirley, who lived in the house but wasn’t there during the explosion, said she had smelled a strange odor outside before the blast, but didn’t know if it was natural gas.
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Schreiber said that with explosions involving solids such as dynamite, the center of the blast is tightly concentrated, creating a crater. Explosions caused by flammable gas are typically spread out over a wide area, such as throughout the interior of a building filled with leaking gas, he said. “If the investigators don’t find a crater, that pretty much means it was something other than a solid phase explosion,” he said, meaning it’s likely to be a gas explosion. But he also said such investigations can still take time.
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The head of a company that does furnace repairs in Indianapolis said the blast’s size made it unlikely that it had been caused by a leaking appliance. “One hell of a lot of gas had to be leaking out ... and that’s typically not symptomatic of a furnace problem,” said Sergei Traycoff, president of Bolls Heating and Cooling. “I’ve never heard of one causing this big a blast.”
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Erickson said it was odd that the blast apparently flattened two homes side by side. Generally, if a house explodes, it will knock out the wall of the home next door, but not level it, he said. For that to occur, both homes would virtually have to have gas leaks that ignited at the same time, he said.
...
Schreiber added that gas explosions create an intense wave of heat that can ignite surrounding homes.

“It goes very quickly. It’s just a ‘whoosh,’ you know, like if you have a gas stove or a grill where it doesn’t ignite immediately and there is a whoosh sound. That’s kind of what happens here, but at a much, much greater level. It’s a quick event, not a lingering thing.”

article

Wanted to find a photo of the site cleared of wreckage, no luck.
gointabed, it's 2.30

Originally posted by Honor93
look, i don't do this childish babble.

I consider that childish babble.

Originally posted by Honor93
no. in this case, time is irrelevant as the house was likely less than airtight, 3 stories and vacant barely 24hrs.

Time is not irrelevant! It's the main factor. 24 hours is a very long time for gas to leak into a house, even with a window wide open. Natural gas is lighter than air and rises to the ceiling, and gets trapped in pockets inside the house.

Also, the leak could have started long before the house was vacant.

Originally posted by Honor93
you stated the SB blast was similar, well ok, how many furnaces (which you think caused this) would it take to produce the damage, in either blast ??
point being, you cannot have it both ways.
either it was a large pipline blast like SB or it wasn't.
so, which is it ??
[completely ignoring the fact that both the utility co and NTSB have stated there is/was no leaks in the IN pipeline]

First off, I was comparing the eye witness testimony and conspiracy theories of the San Bruno explosion with this explosion. In both cases, people initially thought it was an earthquake, or plane crash, or meteor. Yes, the damage was nearly the same type, it destroyed a few homes near the blast, and fire destroyed surrounding homes. I was not comparing the explosion's force. Obviously, San Bruno had more gas, hence bigger explosion.

Second, the NTSB are only saying there was no leak in the pipes leading to the house and meter (which would place blame on the city). They don't yet know about any leaks that happened in the pipes after the meter (which would place blame on the home owner).

Third, it would probably take only ONE faulty furnace 24 hours to do what you see in Indianapolis. The longer you let the leak happen, the bigger the explosion.

If the furnace was old, and not taken care of, it is completely possible for this to happen. Here is what I think could have happened;

Someone left the thermostat on, so when it got cold enough, it triggered the furnace to turn on (as it should). I'm willing to bet the burner ports on the furnace were dirty (which is normal when not maintained), and that caused the the gas and flame to come on unevenly and "huff and puff". It would sound like, "whoosh whoosh whoosh" as if someone was turning the gas on and off really fast while it was burning. This "huffing and puffing" can make it difficult for the flame to stay lit, and it will put itself out (very common). The "huffing and puffing" can also put out a pilot flame if it had one. Usually if the thermocouple doesn't detect heat after a certain amount of "huffing and puffing", it will turn off the control value for the gas (the safety feature). However, I am willing to bet the control valve got stuck open (the main problem) because it is probably old and failing, and that leaked gas for 24 hours into the house.

Put simply, the dirty burner ports caused the flame for the furnace to fail to stay alive because the gas was coming out unevenly (internal back pressure), the safety feature kicked in to turn the gas off, but the gas control value got stuck open and leaked into the house.

Originally posted by Honor93
and NO, i wasn't meaning to compare damages but blast force.
[by the sheer numbers of damage and death / both blasts are comparable, yet, you think a single furnace can/did do similar damage as the SB blast, right ? ]

NO, both blasts are NOT comparable. San Burno had 4 times the deaths, and 15 times more house damage.

Also, NO, I am not saying a single furnace can/did do similar damage as the SB blast. Please, learn to read, and go back and reread what I have said.

I think I am done here... I can't stand the illiteracy.

reply to post by delusion

ok, forget it.
i'm not disputing your commentary but it isn't anywhere near on-topic and i'm trying to stay there, really i am.

and no, not that i've noticed, why would you ask ?
i didn't find trillium's response worthy noting.
(although, i admit i didn't read all of them at that time)

besides, trillium isn't adhering to one and only one THEORY.
nor is trillium trying to present one theory as Fact.

i have not discarded a gas theory, i'm just not accepting the one being pushed on every corner at the moment. it just doesn't work.

why is it illogical for me to say but not so when the "officials" say it ?? what is that about ?

if you think a concensus is needed for a theory to be accepted, you have much to learn grasshopper.

soooo, are you saying you missed the official statements provided by Citizens gas, the NTSB and the local msm ??

atm, the ONLY official group still insisting gas must be involved is DHS ... ?? why isn't that surprising ?

Originally posted by roadgravel
reply to post by Honor93

 

what does "built strong" have to do with airtight ?

Nothing, As I mentioned, weak structure can be relatively airtight, but it doesn't mean it is, just as strong might not be.

A plastic bag is reasonably airtight but not strong.

I think you may have misinterpreted my posts.

ok, i get what you're saying but the question here is if it was airtight and considering the aftermath photos, imho, it was not likely.

reply to post by PieceOfThePuzzle

ah what a shame ... not ... that i cannot view video.
care to summarize or provide a title ?

Did the martians hit the house, or was it a drone. You confuse me

neither was ever a theory of mine.
it's no wonder you are confused or deluded ... your choice

Wow, i've read 92 pages and hundreds of links
and we are still at the same point we were
3 days ago.

This one definitely is interesting.

reply to post by severdsoul

Yep, prettymuch. Interesting how long it's taking, and how so much conflicting info is still being reported.