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Originally posted by FreebirdGirl
reply to post by newcovenant
Regardless...you are finally talking about a topic I know about. If hours are cut they are going to be managerial hours. Please do continue what ever argument you are trying to make. Your fan club awaits.....
Sorry they don't cut manager's hours. We make up for the labor shortage when business volumes are low. Besides that we are paid salary so no overtime. It's actually cheaper to have less employees and a "hands on manager". The manager still has to account for budgets,staffing ect... Plus now he/she can be the fry cook or dishwasher for a couple of hours. This is the new way and oh so good for the bottom line.
reply to post by newcovenant
Mostly BS They can't cut employee hours LOL they depend on the managers to tell them what is necessary. But really.....'bout time you guys got your hands dirty. Cheers!
Originally posted by FreebirdGirl
reply to post by newcovenant
Mostly BS They can't cut employee hours LOL they depend on the managers to tell them what is necessary. But really.....'bout time you guys got your hands dirty. Cheers!
Obviously you don't work for a living or have a limited view on how business actually works. Managers in the restuarant industry always "got their hands dirty". You must have us confused with hedge fund managers. Sorry we actually work for a living. My post was to demonstrate how corporations misuse all employees. The complaint is not the work (I would not work in this industry if I did not enjoy my job). It's how in the past ten years one person now performs the job of two or three people for the pay of one. We work 16 hours a day with no breaks. Most times we work 9 days straight without a day off. Some of our days off are spent at meetings, scheduling or other admin tasks. We don't have the option of calling in sick because there is no one to cover for us. Taking vacation time is a skillful art. "Hands Dirty"? Get a clue. When increasing profitability employee hours are the first to get cut. Do you know anything about labor costs and productivity? Obviously not. Productivity measures how much work you can get from your staff (FYI although pay has decreased over the years productivity has risen). Labor costs determines whether or not the manager gets a bonus or employees get a raise. See corporations have what they call profit. Anything that effects that profit gets anaylzed to determine what is best for the stock holders or upper management not mid-managers, employees or customers. Most restaurants are only fully staffed for peak hours. So the manager or employee has to do his/her job as well as fill in where ever they are needed.Not a job for the weak or lazy. You my friend are either misinformed, full of crap or a troll. You have no idea what you are talking about. Get a life or better yet get educated before you post. Cheers!
Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by newcovenant
How long have you managed people? The things you are saying are the things I have typically heard from newly hired supervisory staff.
- it is not the employees job to determine our staffing/overstaffing situation. If they call in because they believe we are overstaffed, and they haven't even shown up for work yet, that is an issue that needs to be dealt with as it regards overall leadership. Were I given that excuse, that person would likely be terminated.
- if you schedule using last years ledger, you are doing it wrong. Forecasting is done off a combination of the prior 13 weeks, with the prior two weeks trends acting as a "reforecasting" modifier. The only thing you use the last year business for is making sure you don't overlook holidays, or for determining traffic increases during special events (where last year is the only data to go on). But what happpened last year, outside of the special event, is wholly irrelevant to this year. If you believe differently, then you also have a business plan, by default, that has not planned any growth.
- Bad manager? Well...since I know how to forecast, and I understand that the tail doesn't wag the dog when it comes to scheduling, I would say you have a problem of perspective.
- If you think the managers job is to get people fed without complaint, you are doing nothing more than serving slop in a mess hall. In our restaurant the managers job is to secure 5 star service for our guests. Not only can there be no complaints, but the word perfection itself must be redefined each and every night. The same is expected in our bar and our banquet/catering service.
- if an employee in a tipped position cannot break even coming in to work, then they are obviously not cut out to work in my establishment. Their wage is an artifact of ticket price mixed with quality of service. We have a 4 star restaurant....so the ticket prices are there. It is up to the server to upsell if they want to make more money. That is what our wine list is for....to make more money.
reply to post by newcovenant
All true but good managers are the exception and not the rule or you'd see more very successful restaurant chains out there. You must be using as your test group a field of one. Yours. I think you could do with a little education out side of the bubble.
Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by FreebirdGirl
I think you understand this, but i am mentioning for the sake of my friend NewCovenant:
Your employees ARE at work for the money. No one works for free. But.......it isn't the money that will motivate them day in and day out. If you want to motivate them, you have to engage them. Not all will be engaged as not all are cut out for the job. But the ones that are...empower them to make decisions. Train them. Make them good at what they do. When a human can spread their wings and be outstanding at something, they come alive.
That, and you can never order them into battle. You have to run into battle, calling for them to follow you. That is the only way they will ever respect you. Pulling the string is far, far more effective than pushing the string. That is what leadership is.
The two main pieces of advice I give all my new supervisory and management staff.
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Originally posted by Happy1
reply to post by Dishonored
Do you want to spend 12 years of your life in school and working punishing hours to make less than 100,000 dollars a year?
Not to mention the money you had to borrow for school and then the malpractice insurance you have to take out of you 100 grand?
Originally posted by newcovenant
reply to post by FreebirdGirl
Oh please. Many of them stay open due to location bad owners or not.
Did you take some kind of a correspondence course in restaurant management and now think you know everything? I certainly don't claim to know everything but aside from the occasional point for the most part I think you are talking out your derriere. Don't seem to acknowledge all establishments are different and unique situations, yet the exact same in many ways.