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posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 08:56 AM
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I have read today that the USA President could be helping the Muslim Brotherhood and giving them full support to try to start unrest in Jordon, S Arabia and install Muslim Brotherhood governments with some European countries too.
It seem's odd we never had these unrest situations in the years before Obama come to office, are you folks in America sure he is not a Muslim Brother?



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 08:59 AM
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We're almost certain of it......





Theres no way he would do that......



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 09:06 AM
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Obama will save you all from the greatest threat to AMERICA The ZIONISTS.
Obama is the Muslim messiah you will soon be saved from the chosen idiots
Israel
I laugh every day what i read OBAMA is doing to bibi the new world NAZI..



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 09:07 AM
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I hope you're wrong about Jordan. They are the one nation that has remained stable this decade in a sea of unrest. Even at the worst times of Iraq, Amman was one direction of safety when few or none others existed over there. God help everyone there if Jordan starts to go too.....then who knows where or if it ends? It's not that Jordan itself plays an oversize role, but as being the last of the stable regimes and nations in the whole area, it's become symbolic I think.

As for Obama being sympathetic to the "people", if one wants to term them that way, of the extremist sects within the Muslim Brotherhood... I think I'll take this moment to say....I HAVE nothing remotely nice or civil to say...so saying nothing more is probably the best thing I can.


(Jordan ....is Also key and absolutely critical to Biblical events. Jordan has been the holdout and *SOLE* piece of the puzzle that doesn't fit. Israel is to be hit from all sides in the battle they miraculously survive, if one is to follow Christian teachings. Jordan has not been among those who would........so far. I've mentioned I've been waiting for 2 signs to happen before accepting this really IS 'end times' and not B.S.. Jordan is one of those.)



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 09:13 AM
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Why not provide some sort of link to this information you "read". I know some people like to take anything they want to hear on blind faith but at least provide others with some sort of proofs. I'm sure I can go to a site right now and read about a transvestite alien , but it doesn't make it true or a valid source of information.



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 09:19 AM
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No, I heard that Obama was a secret double agent. That while appearing to work for the Muslims, he is secretly working for Israel.

Obama believes that creating unrest in the middle east will bring the Biblical end times. The plans to start the war between Iran and Israel after the election are already in place. Why do you think he is pulling troops from Afghanistan. They will be needed for the ground invasion of Iran.




posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 09:24 AM
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Originally posted by Alternative4u
we never had these unrest situations in the years before Obama come to office


I'm not trying to be rude but are you and I living in the same world?



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 09:31 AM
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I'm kinda baffled by the reaction of everyone to the OP? Are pure discussion threads not encouraged anymore? Everything has to be 100% based on the reporting of others? Oh well...

The OP is right about the unrest though. The Middle East has never been like Canada or a quiet park in Iceland but it's not been like this in generations. From 1979 to Jan. of 2011, the Middle East has simmered on a slow boil...but it's stayed low and just kinda simmered...just a burp now and then. Then someone burned themselves up in Tunisia and that fire as grown to consume the region since... It is worth asking why, exactly and how well planned it's actually been vs. reaction feeding on reaction.

edit on 25-9-2012 by Wrabbit2000 because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 09:37 AM
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What I was suggesting -- you're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith..." --in an interview with ABC's George Stephanopoulos, who jumped in to correct Obama by saying "your Christian faith," which Obama quickly clarified politicalhumor.about.com...

I don't think this was a gaffe. Why would McCain berate Obama about his christian faith to begin with?



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 09:43 AM
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Here's the video -


Also, this in depth article discusses the inconsistencies of Obama's religious claims, and establishes his many connections to Islam.

www.washingtontimes.com...


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posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 09:50 AM
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OP- we KNOW he is! Americans are not as blind as some countries think.



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 10:09 AM
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Originally posted by Alternative4u
I have read today that the USA President could be helping the Muslim Brotherhood and giving them full support to try to start unrest in Jordon, S Arabia and install Muslim Brotherhood governments with some European countries too.
It seem's odd we never had these unrest situations in the years before Obama come to office, are you folks in America sure he is not a Muslim Brother?


We have never had these unrest years before Obama? Didn't they teach world history when you were in school? There has been unrest in that region for decades now.



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 10:33 AM
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Read this if you feel Jordon is safe, I fear it's not.
Jordan on the brink: Muslim Brothers mobilize for King Abdullah’s overthrow
Exclusive Report September 25, 2012, 8:50 AM (GMT+02:00)
Tags: Jordan's King Abdullah II Muslim Brotherhood Arab Spring Israel Saudi Arabia
Jordanian riot police
Jordanian riot police

Jordan’s Muslim Brotherhood has given King Abdullah II notice that he has until October to bow to their demand to transform the Hashemite Kingdom into a constitutional monarchy or face Arab Spring street pressure for his abdication.
Middle East sources report that Israeli and Saudi intelligence watchers are becoming increasingly concerned about the approaching climax of the conflict in Amman between Islamists and the throne .

For Israel, an upheaval in Jordan bodes the tightening of the Islamist noose around its borders – Egypt and Libya to the south and Syria to the north, with unpredictable consequences with regard to Jordan’s Palestinian population.
Saudi Arabia, already threatened by Iranian aggression, fears the oil kingdom may be next in line if its northern neighbor is crushed under the marching feet of the “Arab Spring.”
The oil kingdom’s royal rulers are reported to have belatedly woken up to the peril and are in a panic. They realize that their preoccupation with helping Syrian rebels overthrow Bashar Assad misdirected their attention from the enemies lurking at their own door. Thousands of articles in the Arab press in the past year have predicted that after the Muslim Brotherhood seizes power in Damascus, Amman would be next in its sights followed by Riyadh.
1. He could bow to the main Muslim Brotherhood’s demand by submitting to the kingdom’s transition to a constitutional monarchy and the transfer of executive power to an MB-led government by means of the electoral reforms for which the Brothers have been pushing for years. In Jordan as in Egypt, the Brothers hope for a two-third majority in a free election.
2. He could stand up to the Brotherhood’s demands and order his security, intelligence and military forces to crack down on the opposition. This course carries the risk of plunging Jordan into the carnage of civil war among the diverse segments of the population. The biggest dangers come from the Bedouin tribes, whose traditional allegiance to the Hashemite throne has weakened in recent years, and the Palestinians who form 60 percent of the population.

3. He could seek to negotiate a compromise through various brokers. Our sources report that several attempts at mediation have been ventured of late, but got nowhere because the Muslim Brotherhood sent its most radical leaders to the table and they left very little margin for compromise.
According to sources at the royal court, Abdullah will very soon meet with MB leaders for a personal appeal for calm after years of heated debate. Most observers believe that he has left it too late and by now the Muslim Brotherhood has got the bit between its teeth.
Indeed, according to an internal memorandum leaked to the Al-Hayat newspaper, the MB has already set a date for mass demonstrations against the King to start on Oct. 10 and ordered its members to go to work at once to mobilize at least 50,000 demonstrators for daily protests against the king and the royal family until he bows to their will.

The memorandum states: “Every member must be dedicated to communicate with his relatives, close friends, acquaintances, fellow employees and various Islamic groups and patriots…” It calls for the formation of “hotbeds to… focus on the participation of groups affiliated with universities, schools and women’s organizations.” Protesters are also advised on tactics for overcoming a security crackdown.
Jordan’s Muslim Brotherhood has therefore moved forward from opposition propaganda, debating and political pressure to activism against the throne.
Both Jordanian camps are anxiously watching to see which way the wind blows in the White House.

President Barack Obama has a balancing act to resolve: On the one hand, the Jordanian king has long been a staunch American ally and friend, its mainstay in many regional crises. On the other, Obama regards the Muslim Brotherhood as the linchpin of his external policy of outreach to the Muslim world.



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 11:08 AM
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I think he and people in his administration have ties to the Muslim brotherhood, yes.



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 11:49 AM
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The best run countries in the world are run by socialist leaders and socialist minded people. This myth that socialism is bad, put out there by the elites, is wrong. If Obama is socialist thats a good thing.



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 11:54 AM
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As of now estate tax is zero. Obama wants the estate tax to be 55%. Plan on taking over the farm you and your dad worked so hard on? Think again.



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 11:59 AM
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So what if he was Muslim. Both christen and muslims worship the same god don't they, the only difference is they don't believe Jesus was the son of God and Muhammad is their prophet not Jesus.

Actually Obama attended a black christen church. The records clearly show he is christen.

His mother would have been Catholic because she is Irish American and Hes father was Muslim. Obama is probably open to all faiths which is good thing.



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 01:36 PM
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im not worried about him being socialist, im worried about the company he keeps



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 01:40 PM
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Yes I think you may be right, the President belongs to both sides of of Churches, a bit like people who pretended to be helping Britain in WW2, but were giving Germany the info needed to help bomb us better, yer that sounds about right.



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 01:56 PM
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So in a part of the world that is known for two things, oil and unrest people think Obama is causing the unrest? It really is amazing how little people know about this part of the world, its history, its peoples, its cultures etc. I know most people have not spent the time their like myself but, if you want to know they have plenty of books on the subject and lots of people from that part of the world now live in the west and are happy to tell you the good and the bad of the region.



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