More fake gold discovered, this time in Manhattan.

Reading some of the clippings added to the page so far, it seems like back when the gold was being confiscated and melted down was when it was switched and stuck in the Ft, I am most likely wrong but i sounds like an option.

It could also have been the Fed but that just seems to easy, like were supposed to blame them. Since China got a bum shipment would one not assume that the rest of the gold in the fed vault is the same, and if so Who took the real goods and when was it taken?

By the looks of it, those bars wasn't made by some amateur. Whoever does it has a good size operation with a foundry. Probably took a mold of a real bar and made a stamp etched like the real one. You ever buy gold buy it in person and bring a magnet with you. lol

There's so many scams out there. Someone should come up with a website exposing all the scams out there!

Originally posted by sean
By the looks of it, those bars wasn't made by some amateur. Whoever does it has a good size operation with a foundry.

Yes, try the U.S. Government!
This was done in the Clinton era, not saying the Clinton's executed it, they just happened to be in the White House when it was perpetrated by...well..."them" , those that really run the government.

Originally posted by CosmicEgg
Not wanting to derail this thread by any means but ... does anyone wonder why we even accept gold as valuable on any level? Why? It doesn't do anything miraculous. It isn't strong by any means. It's shiny. That's about it. Well whoop-dee-doo. So what?

Because gold doesn't oxidize.

It remains pure gold forever. It maintains it's original value, stays in it's original state, like the unchanging sun.

Silver, on the other hand, which was priced higher than Gold for a time in Ancient Egypt, does oxidize. Silver turns black over time, because it reacts with atmospheric oxygen. You can polish the Silver to restore the luster. But, that polishing, is removing the oxide which is part silver, so the silver loses its mass over time, and becomes less valuable. Because Silver alternates between silvery white and oxidized black, it came to symbolize the Moon, in just the same way Gold symbolizes the Sun.

Most metals oxidize like Silver, only Gold remains pure.

Being the only metal on earth that doesn't change it's state, it's an unique "holder of value".

I remember a big thing on TV. on CNN and a post on ATS.
they ask't The Federal Reserve if they have Gold.
they said They Dont have any Gold !

The Federal Reserve Dont have any gold...
I hope some one can find this news clip.

That's really strange to hear that there is such a huge bank of gold in Manhattan. Kind of crazy to think about. But, is there really no gold in Fort Knox??? All Americans assume that there is a huge amount of gold there. Is it really general knowledge among those in "the know" that Fort Knox has been looted?

Gold was withdrawn as a currency. Where is all that gold now? Is it not stored in fort knox and property of the united states? If it has been replaced by fakes here and there it is not a conspiracy, but a crime.

That's really strange to hear that there is such a huge bank of gold in Manhattan. Kind of crazy to think about. But, is there really no gold in Fort Knox??? All Americans assume that there is a huge amount of gold there. Is it really general knowledge among those in "the know" that Fort Knox has been looted?

Wouldnt the staff notice? What reason is there to loot fort knox, if you control the country, you control its gold reserves too. If you take all that gold to some Island, some Narcos could take it from you and kill everyone present.

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Yes, I went to Chemistry classes too, thanks. I can also consult the Net for those same little nuggets of info. You're missing the point. The question is WHY is it so valuable. It was not used at the dawn of time for any of that stuff. That all came along later.

Damn. You people don't think. Such simplistic answers, and it's because you don't bloody THINK.

There is no reason for gold to hold the status it does. It's just not that great. Think about it and go find something of real value, like an apple tree.

Originally posted by dbarnhart
When I was a young boy you could by a gallon of gas for ten cents. If you have a silver dime from those days, the silver is worth eough tobuy a galon of gas. A paper-based currency can be manipulated simply by printing more of it. A gold-backed currency cannot be manipulated. Unless you can make more gold...which is essentially what is happening here.

The price of gold is easily enough manipulated by anyone who owns enough gold to move the market price around by putting it on the market or taking it off the market.

It happened throughout the era of the gold standard and the resulting economic devastation was particularly nasty during the late 1800s.

One interpretation was that the US was, even in an era when there was no central bank, not truly in control of their own currency because they were still beholden to the money/banking cartel and their control over gold. After Lincoln, they basically create economic catastrophes for profit and to torture the still relatively independent US economy into submission and this chapter ends with the creation of the central bank under Wilson, and the surrender of the US power to produce its own currency to that independent, privately owned bank.

If there is a difference, it would be that deflation is more likely to be the weapon of choice than inflation, but growth is stifled, debts pile up, people are robbed of their property, and people are out of work just the same.

We have the right money system(in that it seems to be the best one yet invented); it's just not used to serve the common interest of general prosperity and empowerment for all.