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''[W]e seek to honor God by operating the company in a manner consistent with Biblical principles. The conflict for me is that our family is being forced to choose between following the laws of the country that we love or maintaining the religious beliefs that have made our business successful and have supported our family and thousands of our employees and their families.''
David Green
CEO of Hobby Lobby
founded the company in 1972
Is this the governments' way of saying to religion,
not no, but hell no?
Under the HHS mandate, however, Hobby Lobby will be forced to provide and pay for abortion-inducing drugs such as the “morning after” and “week after” pills, regardless of their religious or moral objections to doing so.
Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius violated the Hatch Act in February when she called for re-electing President Obama during an official department appearance, the Office of Special Counsel said Wednesday.
The finding could possibly cost Sebelius her job.
www.federalTime s.com
Next month, thousands of pro-life advocates in more than 100 cities will engage in rallies to stand up for their religious freedom against the controversial HHS mandate the Obama administration put in place.
www.lifenews.com
Originally posted by flyswatter
Touchy issue here. While I would never suggest that a person get an abortion (other than in absolute life-threatening circumstances), I also believe that it is not my place to try and prevent a woman from doing it, within certain limitations anyway - not after a certain period of gestation, unless life threatening, etc.
As far as the company and the insurance company being forced to offer it, ugh ... its just a mess. On one hand I think that companies should have to abide by the law and provide for what is permissable by law. On the other hand, I dont think that the lack of providing these services due to religious beliefs justifies such a huge fine.
There has to be a line drawn somewhere. Where that point is, who knows. I'm conflicted on this whole thing.
I don't believe that the discussion is what women do with their bodies. I'm sure Hobby Lobby won't fire a woman because she gets an abortion. The question is, can the government order Hobby Lobby to pay for abortion drugs, when paying for them goes against their religious principles? Principles that existed well before there was a US.
Who are we to say what women can and can't do with their bodies, but also who are we to say a company should or shouldn't have to abide by certain laws other companies do!
"adding contraception and having some employees take advantage of that, lowers the overal cost of the Health plan"
Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius
Originally posted by zroth
reply to post by mikegrouchy
Since when does an employer get to tell you how to live your life?
In U.S. politics, the Hyde Amendment is a legislative provision barring the use of certain federal funds to pay for abortions.[1] It is not a permanent law, rather it is a "rider" that, in various forms, has been routinely attached to annual appropriations bills since 1976. The Hyde Amendment applies only to funds allocated by the annual appropriations bill for the Department of Health and Human Services. It primarily affects Medicaid.
The First Amendment prohibits the federal government from making a law "respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"
No employer is trying to tell anyone how to live his or her life. The employers are just saying that they shouldn't be forced to pay for those choices. Women can get all the abortions they want, the employer doesn't care. It's that they have to pay for the woman's personal choices, and violate their religious beliefs while doing so, thats the problem.
Since when does an employer get to tell you how to live your life?
Well, of course, these aren't labor laws. They are Health and Human Services regulations, not sent through Congress, which change all state and local laws on the issue. They introduce new requirements. If anything, the employers would prefer to keep the old rules, not change them.
I am all for the owner believing what he wants but they are not allowed to change labor laws to afford those beliefs to supersede national, state and/or local labor laws.