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Why the Serpent?

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posted on Jul, 16 2012 @ 08:20 PM
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The serpent is one of the oldest and most widespread mythological symbols used to represent evil or intellect.

Why the serpent?

A serpent is a snake/reptile.

Why did most cultures around the world choose the snake?


There must be something about the reptilian/snake.

Is it because they more or less fully evolved/adapted to their climate many millennia ago? And didn’t get the opportunity to develop original thought to become as intellectual as humans?

Are they really intellectual and we just don’t know?

I’m not a fan of the reptilian theory. I don’t think TPTB are lizards, live underground etc.

Any theories?..




posted on Jul, 16 2012 @ 08:33 PM
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Did "most cultures around the world" choose the snake as the personification of evil?

Perhaps ancient humans cohabited with the last of the dinosaurs and they were left with a genetic memory of fear of dragons and serpents.



posted on Jul, 16 2012 @ 08:40 PM
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I think that humans in dinosaurs cohabitating is quite possible. However, im not so sure that it would have left a genetic imprint in our memory... But I like the idea



posted on Jul, 16 2012 @ 08:43 PM
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Although, Cohabitating with dinosaurs would have required humans to further their intellect in order to increase their chances of survival hence the dinosaurs/dragons/serpents giving humans intellect.. so that could possibly work



posted on Jul, 16 2012 @ 10:57 PM
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Snakes are reptiles and they have a nice Pineal Gland. Guess what else was reptilian with a Pineal gland.

Think ancient Sumeria. Creator gods.

Then follow the Pharohs that used the sign of the snake as that for higher intelligence provided by the 6 th sense.

Interesting little viewpoints here with several bits of good information:




weenog.newgrounds.com...



In the Garden of Eden that issue of the snake was one of providing higher knowledge.



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 07:28 AM
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all shamemen meet a snake while tripping even in places with no snakes there are cults of the snake have a read of the cosmic serpent by j narby



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 10:31 AM
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hebrew word that, among other things, represents seraph beings, aka angels of light can be translated as the fiery serpent. it´s a misunderstanding, that is all, there was no snake serpent in Eden, there was, however a seraph, who we later grew to know as Lucifer, which is just latin for "the one who brought light to this universe". Eve wasn´t seduced by some snakey animal, instead a very powerful creature looked her in the eyes and said, we´ve got something to talk about, lol.....lizards theory is just cooky people misunderstanding the myth.....so once again, ancinet hebrew for a seraph being is "fiery serpant" nothing to do with animals or snakes......
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posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 01:13 PM
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Originally posted by night1
hebrew word that, among other things, represents seraph beings, aka angels of light can be translated as the fiery serpent. it´s a misunderstanding, that is all, there was no snake serpent in Eden, there was, however a seraph, who we later grew to know as Lucifer, which is just latin for "the one who brought light to this universe". Eve wasn´t seduced by some snakey animal, instead a very powerful creature looked her in the eyes and said, we´ve got something to talk about, lol.....lizards theory is just cooky people misunderstanding the myth.....so once again, ancinet hebrew for a seraph being is "fiery serpant" nothing to do with animals or snakes......
edit on 17-7-2012 by night1 because: (no reason given)



I think one might also find that the symbolism for "Fiery Serpent" comes from the symbolism of a volcanic lava flow that snakes its way down from the primortial mounds.

Those legends of serpents and primortial mounds find their roots in the Annunaki and Sumeria, along with advanced sciences of all sorts. Light in knowledge and existance.



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 05:35 PM
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The Cobra became the symbol of Pharoh in Egypt, and the symbol was two fold. One of power to kill and the other for a sixth sense. Cobras can sense heat and use their 6th sense to hunt, similar to pit vipers.

Snake light sensors in eyes are cone shape, and resemble the primitive Pineal gland in light sensing.

The King Cobras have heat sensing in the little holes where their nostrels would be and are the top hunters. They are intelligent, lay eggs, guard their eggs as birds would do, and are defensive in nature. Nobody wants to mess with a Cobra because they can kill an elephant.

So, there are many symbolism for snakes from the Primordial Mound look alike effects of lava flows down hills. One can observe a snake synbol at the Chitzenitza Pyramid on the date for the Summer Solstice.

Cobra Snakes are considered smartest hunters via their heat sensing 6th sense, and extremely dangerous due to the toxic venom. Some snakes have primitive heat vision in total darkness.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 01:01 AM
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I believe it is because before human being were introduced here, they ruled the planet, it was theirs. Early humans no doubt got some help in exterminating some of the larger ones. You are right about the Serpent, it is in every single culture in the world in some way or other. You might be interested in my thread:
Were Humans Created by Reptilians?



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 07:36 AM
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Originally posted by MagnumOpus

Originally posted by night1
hebrew word that, among other things, represents seraph beings, aka angels of light can be translated as the fiery serpent. it´s a misunderstanding, that is all, there was no snake serpent in Eden, there was, however a seraph, who we later grew to know as Lucifer, which is just latin for "the one who brought light to this universe". Eve wasn´t seduced by some snakey animal, instead a very powerful creature looked her in the eyes and said, we´ve got something to talk about, lol.....lizards theory is just cooky people misunderstanding the myth.....so once again, ancinet hebrew for a seraph being is "fiery serpant" nothing to do with animals or snakes......
edit on 17-7-2012 by night1 because: (no reason given)



I think one might also find that the symbolism for "Fiery Serpent" comes from the symbolism of a volcanic lava flow that snakes its way down from the primortial mounds.

Those legends of serpents and primortial mounds find their roots in the Annunaki and Sumeria, along with advanced sciences of all sorts. Light in knowledge and existance.

i got no idea what the hell you are saying, hope you do, lol?it´s not nuclear sience or encripted code. Lucifer is an angel of light, he comes into the garden and looks at Eve, the rest is history....



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 09:53 AM
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Originally posted by night1

Originally posted by MagnumOpus

Originally posted by night1
hebrew word that, among other things, represents seraph beings, aka angels of light can be translated as the fiery serpent. it´s a misunderstanding, that is all, there was no snake serpent in Eden, there was, however a seraph, who we later grew to know as Lucifer, which is just latin for "the one who brought light to this universe". Eve wasn´t seduced by some snakey animal, instead a very powerful creature looked her in the eyes and said, we´ve got something to talk about, lol.....lizards theory is just cooky people misunderstanding the myth.....so once again, ancinet hebrew for a seraph being is "fiery serpant" nothing to do with animals or snakes......
edit on 17-7-2012 by night1 because: (no reason given)



I think one might also find that the symbolism for "Fiery Serpent" comes from the symbolism of a volcanic lava flow that snakes its way down from the primortial mounds.

Those legends of serpents and primortial mounds find their roots in the Annunaki and Sumeria, along with advanced sciences of all sorts. Light in knowledge and existance.

i got no idea what the hell you are saying, hope you do, lol?it´s not nuclear sience or encripted code. Lucifer is an angel of light, he comes into the garden and looks at Eve, the rest is history....


You should read more of the Pre-Flood themes for religion. That would take reading more than the one simple minded book. There are old notations that derive from the formation of the Earth via Fire and Water, and these appear in ancient Sumeria

Look up the god of "Ptah" from Egypt, which is also symbolic for Enki. In the old theme of things, life came from the Primortial Mounds. The theme is revered as the creation, along the same line as Creator gods.




www.eoht.info...

One of the earliest documented uses of the triangle shape representation for heat, fire, or warmth traces back to the Greeks. The Greek classical elements are:


fire () delta upward
earth ()
air ()
water () delta downward



In the old times, volcanic issues with the minerals provided agriculture, and the other was water. Ancient Sumeria was into both.

Anyone that has been in a Lava Tube or watched a live volcanic flow down a hillside recognizes the fiery serpent symbolism.

Anyone that knows agriculture knows the value of minerals in volcanic soils for agriculture.


In the times of Egypt and the pyramids, they were surrounded by a huge moat. The higher part was the heat of the sun and/or volcanic promordial mound, and the reflections in the water of the moat was the water.

It is where fire and water symbolims came from in the gods theme, and slight variations were Earth and Air.


edit on 18-7-2012 by MagnumOpus because: Ptah the early god of the Egyptians is Promordial Mound theme, derived from Sumerian themes of god.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 01:03 PM
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So, with a little bit of checking on the theme of Sumeria's Enlil and Enki, one finds the fire and water theme of two gods. And these two gods have a serpent theme.

One stands for Fire and the other for Water, and with the symbolic triangle for each it becomes the Star of David that is all about the sciences learned from the Ancient Sumerian Culture.


For Enki, friend to Noah, this is the theme:




www.thetempleoftheancients.com...

Name Meaning: "Whose home is water" (Ea) "Lord Earth" (Enki)
Appearance: A 7 foot tall man; Shoulder length black hair; Olive complexion. Wears a Caduceus pendant around his neck and holds a gleaming gold staff with serpents intertwined at the top.
Symbol: Two Serpents intertwined around a staff



And for Enlil, the theme for Yahweh, the god for Moses Mtn of Fire. The god assigned to kill off Soddom and Gomorrah. Abraham makes his deal with Enlil.


edit on 18-7-2012 by MagnumOpus because: The Intermeshed triangles of god



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 02:29 PM
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Could the mystery about the mythic dragon be something about a ancient secret message, the ultimate eternal truth?

I consider DNA as the structure depicted so commonly as entwined serpents to be our CREATRIX, something of the Universe life in the stardust we are born from.

Nothing-Everything-Nothing. That is the simplest and wisest statement to consider.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 10:55 PM
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There is also that ancient magical allusion that the serpent represents the human spine.

This then identifies human physicality as something evil.



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 03:09 PM
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Originally posted by chr0naut
There is also that ancient magical allusion that the serpent represents the human spine.

This then identifies human physicality as something evil.



Maybe and maybe not....

It appears, if the snake is a spine symbolism, that it supports a higher intelligent brain, as an evolutionary higher lifeform.

Dual intertwined snakes imply DNA strands and genetic experiments.

Snakes have adapted from desert to oceans and have that abilty to see in the dark via the heat sense vision.

The Egytians so revered snake, Cobras, that one was part of their headress.



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 03:37 PM
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The serpent also represents the Kundalini


Gurdjieff in Ouspensky′s In Search of the Miraculous:

In so-called ′occult′ literature you have probably met with the expression ′Kundalini,′ ′the fire of Kundalini,′ or the ′serpent of Kundalini.′ This expression is often used to designate some kind of strange force which is present in man and which can be awakened.





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